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Why cant points be adjusted the Mini House turn ins?

Discussion in 'UHall' started by Siabra, Jun 26, 2008.

  1. Siabra

    Siabra Seasoned Veteran
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    I think it would be a lot fairer if the points you got depended on the size of the Mini-House deed itself, its not as though TONS of them are "Laying" around to turn in anyway.. and the harder items such as Castle Mini-Deed should be worth a LOT more than the others since it was the hardest 1 to get

    SO ,, Start with small houses being 1,000 pts and go up from there. This would also allow some people who are very close to getting what they want to possible be able to actually get them.

    Without having to resort to buying them

    What does everone else think?
    Siabra:
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  2. Blesh

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    i think its fine the way it is. No need to make this more complicated for them.

    dont like the pts, keep the mini house deed. end of story :)
     
  3. 50 points per mini???!!!

    Sure in the hell not taking a axe to our collection any time soon.
     
  4. Lord Kynd

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    i think they should be worth more due to be held onto longer and not obtainable now.
     
  5. Azureal

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    This argument is old. So old in fact it died already. Died and got buried, oh I dont know, a few weeks ago when round 2 was announced. And as (I think it was) Jeremy (maybe it was Regine) put it last time, no-one is twisting your arm to turn these things in.

    If you have enough of an attachment to the item to think that the hand in value is too low, then keep the item.
     
  6. Siabra

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    Unlike other items given out by TONS, Mini-House deeds were given 1 per char- and the larger rarer Mini-House Deeds became a search for some that equalled the Holy Grail

    Origami is worth 1k each now.... how many MORE scripters do you think will be at the Fan Dancer Dojo... on EVERY SHARD???

    I Believe its better to let people have a fair chance at the turn-in item they want to get rather than to make them buy that item - at truely outrageous current prices

    Its not like someone turning in TONS of BODs to get these things

    Or would you say to that- well if they dont have enough money let them leave uo?
     
  7. Azureal

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    As you so excellently pointed out, there are plenty of items on the list, still spawning and paying well ticket wise. If you so badly want points, go farm those items.

    Pray tell exactl what would you like to see the tower, keep and castle mini house deeds go for, points wise? And if they were that point value, would you be STUPID enough to hand them in anyway? Like the people that wanted some outrageous amount of points for the last range of anniversary items, even with a higher point value they wouldnt have handed them in anyway.
     
  8. Siabra

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    UO had no problem changing the pts downward on the steables list- so I feel confident they could come ith something fair -

    There area a lot of people who are trying to get only 1 or 2 things- whats wrong with them getting a decent range of pts for OLD items instead of them having to BUY Points from Player Vendors at outrageous prices?

    I never said to give any Mini-House deeds OUTRAGEOUS PTS ( LOL CEPT PERHAPS the CASTLE mini House deed that was truely very very very hard to get ( ask anyone who does any trading )

    The point is this: asking UO to give pts for Mini House based on the size/level of the mini house is not saying give 89,000 pts for it but starting at 1k for the smallest 1 and going up from there would be fair
     
  9. Azureal

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    The points were adjusted down because they went onto TC wrongly in the first place. 10k for a Arti Level 1 Doom stealable was clearly wrong.

    Why buy the points? Go and farm the virtue dungeons for armor drops (Ive got two, glad I held onto them, 10k each!) go and steal the wires and horse shoes, theres 250 points each. Theres plenty of crap available to collect.

    1k for the lowest, and then work your way up? How exactly? Its players that decide "exactly" how rare something is, not the Devs. So they come out and say the castle deed is worth 10k points, someone else will just keep on complaining thats its too much/too little.

    Even 1k for the least rare of the house deeds is too much. You got them for free. For doing nothing. They should be worth the same. At last count I had 37 house deeds. Mostly common ones but even I wouldnt feel right getting a minimum 1k points for each of them.
     
  10. Strawberry

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    I think it's perfect. This way, the rarest mini-houses (the thatched roof cottage is actually the rarest) won't be turned in but the most common ones (small marble workshop is the most common) will be drained out of the system.
     
  11. Recently someone offered me several hundred thousand for my tower deed. Obviously I'm not giving it away for a few measley points. I agree 50 pts is low for any of the holiday items which is why the only things I have turned in were snowglobes. I probably have 60 tree deeds. Yes, there are a lot out there, but they don't come out every year and people always buy Christmas trees in the fall. It's not rocket science to figure out which items to turn in.
     
  12. Azureal

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    Ive got you beat then. I counted out 71 when round two hand in came out. Couldnt bring myself to hand them in though.
     
  13. Tomas_Bryce

    Tomas_Bryce Rares Collector Extraordinaire | Rares Fest Host
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    I think the confusion arises from the fact that people are still thinking of the turn-in as a reward for things that they have held on to. That is not the purpose of the spring clean up anymore. It is clearly being used to get people out there in the dungeons to keep them busy while the dev team cooks up the real stuff (Jeremy has dropped enough hints regarding this). As such, anything that requires you to go hunt tends to have a higher value.
     
  14. Olahorand

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    these are different to all other gifts, since they where only given out to characters, which have registered their AoS account within a certain time frame and logged in to claim the mini house deeds (and the Personal Bless Deeds in same context).
    So they have not been a holiday gift, but a promotional item, which should entitle them to be more worth for the collection as well.
    *Salute*
    Olahorand
     
  15. Lady Aalia

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    Totally agree with Ola.
    I dont think they should do em depending on rarety thou ...just upscale the general point of them bringing them at least to the same value of origami paper.

    if this is suppose to drain the less rarer ones out of the system they need to be at least worth something or non will be drained out.

    Christmas gifts at 50 was perfect...there was millions of them i stopped counting at 80 trees and i turned em all in but 10
     
  16. Siabra

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    1,000 pts per Mini-House would be alright, then if anyone did have any of the harder to get ones that would be cool. And they probably wouldn't want to turn them in. Or NOT

    I didn't say anythig about the other items getting 50 points, there are tons of them and "turning them in is a great way to clean up."

    But the Mini Houses should be worth at least 1,000 points -
     
  17. Godra

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    Speaking of Snowglobes. Anyone on Atlantic have Empath Abbey and Shrine of Honor globes they want to sell? They are the only two I need to complete all 3 collections.

    I also need the Castle, Tower and Two-story Villa mini house deeds. So if you are planning to be an idiot and tradeing those 3 deeds in, then I will be glad to give you 100 points each, (thats double than the npc will give you)!!! Of course that was a joke, but do need them and willing to pay good gold for them.
     
  18. Siabra

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    Godra- did you get the snowglobes that you needed to complete the set yet?

    Yes I think that since the Mini-House were NOT given out with the same system as the snowmen etc they SHOULD be worth 1,000 points each - the main reason is that would allow- hopefully people to finish gettign their items they want from the new turn-ins WITHOUT having to resort to BUYING points from ANY of the scriptors who are just sitting there scripting away
     
  19. legendsguy

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    don't think the points are enough? don't turn the item in. we're trying to throw away trash here, not turn in rares for other rares.

    at least that was my assumption.
     
  20. Siabra

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    ahh ... so you think that AFTER the turn-ins are STOPPED- the items you are currently getting wont be RARE? AND so .. sell for a LOT when I've already seen players trying to sell the luck ring/bracelt set for over 35 mill?
     
  21. Azureal

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    I see you havent given up yet. Youve even started a poll, for gods sake. Oh well, just keep beating that horse. It wont feel a thing, it died a long long time ago...

    As for people wanting more points, go and do what everyone else is doing. Kill Ophidians (skins and rations), go and do Heartwood tinkers quests (recipes and talismans), go and fish up MiBs (nets and pre chest loot) or go hunting in the AV dungeons and collect 10th anni artis. Ive been doing all of these things for the last week, and now have over 300k in my collection, as well as another 150k to hand in.

    Youre not getting more points for the house deeds. They were given to you for NOTHING. The rarity and player sentimentality aside, you didnt have to work for them, and as such they are ticket valued the same way.
     
  22. Siabra

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    you made the mistake of thinking I dont have enough points to get the few things I wanted- it wasn't for me- as I said in the post if you had actually taken the TIME TO R-E-A-D :p