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Why Do Devs Hate PvP?

Discussion in 'UHall' started by Ls Jax Ls, Oct 29, 2010.

  1. Ls Jax Ls

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    Why is it that every single time something is changed in UO, PvP becomes worse? I mean seriously? You're going to completely ruin the way fields have worked since I started playing this game? Mysticism has been out for over a year, and it's been overpowered since it came out. I could go on and on about what's wrong with PvP, but quite frankly there's just too much to list. If they keep this up, pretty soon UO is not going to be UO anymore. For the first time since I started playing, I log on and actually DON'T want to PvP. Developers, please stop ruining this game.
     
  2. Madrid

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    Now you know how many us of felt years ago. There was a mass exodus of PvPer back when precasting was removed from the game. Constant change to PvP is not a good thing nor is trying to make all classes viable and equal.

    I do not PvP anymore because of the changes. I still love UO and enjoy PvM. PvM is really where the game has improved but PvP has gone in the opposite direction.

    The PvP system today can't compare to what it once was. There's no way to describe it. PvP skill was very transparent back in those days. A Top PvP'er running around naked with a Halberd and a bag of reagents could kill 3-4 full suited players who were only so so.

    I know there are some hardcore PvP'ers still playing today. I feel bad for all the PvPers who never got to experience how PvP was back in the day circa 1997-2000.

    Maybe some day some drastic change will take place to bring skill back to PvP but without removing artifacts, dismounts and special moves I don't see how it's possible.
     
  3. Chap

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    if the devs could chose, there would be PvP changes.

    However in this complex word its the devs bosses who decide the path. If marketing says they will sell 50% more boxes by making mystisism overpowered, its the way its gonna be.

    from a pattern-perspective we've seen this before, basicaly every expansion there is.


    Im just waiting for the day they discover the true values in PvP players, theres millions sitting on the fence here waiting to come back.
     
  4. dukarlo

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    I dont think the devs pvp. Therefore they dont actually understand it. They make thier decisions on what they think Trammies want.
     
  5. Restroom Cowboy

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    Dude, you are like the energizer bunny of locked threads...

    just how many times do you have to beat a dead horse?

    Mysticism, and then mysticism, and then pots, and then mysticism, and now mysticism again?

    Did I get the order of thread necro in order?

    perhaps you would like to correct me?

    Would you please just try something else?













































    Maybe pvm? :grouphug:



    Oh and IBTL!
     
  6. Gilmour

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    its the same for everyone? :p

    if you are unhappy roll the template you think is the most powerful?

    i dont see the problem :)
     
  7. Lord Frodo

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    MILLIONS :lol:
     
  8. Ls Jax Ls

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    You don't PvP, therefore you don't know what the effect of this ridiculous change to fields is going to be.

    Seriously restroom, get over yourself.
     
  9. lucitus

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    Yeah restroom is back restroom you are gimpy templater how you are doing in your "wohnklo" ;)?
     
  10. jrede23

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    havent heard nething about this "change of fields" deal. What are they doing that will change the fields?
     
  11. Flutter

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    I think Cal was trying to PvP and got fielded out of his house and got mad, threw his keyboard against a wall and shouted "WE ARE GONNA CHANGE THIS NOW!"

    Yeah, that's the way I pictured it. It was during one of his lunch breaks.
     
  12. Nurse Miss Maude

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    They hate PvP, because people cry when they lose stuff or get beat a lot. I'm sure they get tired of the crying.
     
  13. Lord Frodo

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    Is this what you are whining about. OMG this will totaly destroy PvP.
     
  14. A Bad Player

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    Any tile a player is standing on can't be fielded. Ever been in a choke fight? You'd realize how stupid this change is.

    Not to mention tracking has been broken for how long? Yay one more boost for stealthers that are already nearly impossible to kill.
     
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    theyre changing fields?

    EDIT: just read the thing about cant field a spot a player is standing on.
    Wow, that's ********.

    Just goes to show how little thinking actually goes on at EA.

    Game's been out for 13 years, and still on track with it's "idiotic change of the month" routine.

    This is what happens when a game is maintained by people who don't even play it.
     
  16. Flutter

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    LOL I know. It made for an interesting fight at the Marble spawn choke last night.
    People who don't understand this as an issue are those who don't pvp.
    You cannot field a tile if someone is on it.
    You cannot field someones house.
    I've also noticed conflags aren't working as intended.
     
  17. Lord Frodo

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    Could you show us where UO says this is intended or is this a bug from the stairs fix and if it is has anyone turned in a bug report.
     
  18. Dakkon Blackblade

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    .

    Some people got angry because the bug known as precasting was removed, they loved the easy mode it brought them because they could store up a high damage spell or paralyze and kill people very quickly, many of them mistook this for skill, the end.

    Minus the item based junk, there is theoretically many more options for a PvPer these days, you couldn't hack it once they took your bug out of the game.

    The PvP today with a few tweaks and removal of the AoS items would actually be quite enjoyable I imagine. Yes a naked mage with a hally could ruin 3-4 people because they didn't really have to try all that hard lets distill pk pvp against a common foe.

    1) Magic Arrow/Harm
    2) precast exp/ebolt
    3) equip halberd get a quick swing for 40-50 damage
    4) Unequip halberd and dump for the win

    Or scenario two vs warrior

    1) Magic Arrow
    2) paralyze
    3) precast para again and equip halberd with UOA
    4)get hally hit and immediately para again

    Rinse and repeat, although some warriors did eventually smarten up and start using trapped pouches to get out of paralyze, you would be surprised at how many didn't however.
     
  19. Pink Floyd

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    Have you seen the EA devs now? Look at their facebook "around the office" album. They aren't even cool in the nerdy world. They should be badasses with wolf shirts and IROC camaro's programming to heavy metal but no, they're not even cool in the nerd world. Our dev's aren't the type of person that would pvp, ever.
     
  20. Ls Jax Ls

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    You should stick to posting about something you have a clue about Frodo, before you look like an idiot again.
     
  21. Lord Frodo

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    LOL Just another one of your OMG whine threads. Did you bother submitting a bug report or asking a Dev in a civil way if this was intended because of thier stair fix? No you just post yet another OMG whine thread. :sad2:
     
  22. Ls Jax Ls

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    You let me know how to contact a dev there champ and I will.
     
  23. Vaelix

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    Most normal people put on their bright red high heels, Click their heels together, and Wish three times.

    Usually this results in a House Falling on the "Wisher" in question. (In the Form of a High Seas Booster, Or Myst "PvM" Changes)
     
  24. Picus of Napa

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    Are you telling me that people can no longer field me out of my yew gate house? If so thats a heck of a LOL I have coming for the dev team. While I never shall grow tired of seeing my house with a fat E-field across the front I'm shocked this has been implemented(n should note that I actually hate gate fighting but this house I couldn't pass up as it's directly in the GZ on Napa and has proven to be very popular with my guild and many other people over the years). I didn't notice the same thing the other day whilst raiding a baracoon but it did seem quite easy to walk onto the island with only one mage in our crew and three in the other...guess this is why?
     
  25. Ishamel_Legends

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    Fields are fine as is. This is just another nerf to mages.
     
  26. Ls Jax Ls

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    I'm fairly certain that out of everyone who has ever heard of the game Ultima Online, the people running it know the least about it. Truly sad. :(