Before anyone replies, telling me to go to another location to train my skills..please consider everyone here pays to play the game and if we can make suggestions and what not to improve it, then we should welcome such things. I decided this year to make a tamer finally. It's the only template I don't have. I asked around and did some research as to the best way to go about it. I always heard 'go to the jhelome bullpens'. I worked my skill up to mid 80's on Ice Isle but tired of the constant orc spawn so I decided to try the bullpens. I figured bullpens=free from dealing with danger while I worked this skill, which would be nice. Now here is the part of the story where I'm going to complain. I went to trammel side Jhelome bull pen and was eager to start my training. The only problem, no bulls. I was confused since this is where everyone was raving about when asked where should I go to train. I was disappointed. After being bummed out about it, I started to get angry. Where did the bulls go, why aren't they respawning... Who took the bulls, where did they take them to, and why? After some investigation this is what I've found: Who took the bulls = name sounds sort of like showgamer. Where are they taking the bulls = onto a boat in the middle of nowhere within the subserver. Why = simply to grief others so that they can't enjoy the benefits of the bull pens ( he does this both in trammel and felucca). He does this without fail everyday. At one point in the day, the bulls will refresh or something and return back to the pens but he goes and retames them and moves them to this boat again. The bulls won't respawn in the pens, because they haven't been removed from the subserver. If you check uo automap, that subserver is huge. Looking for those bulls was hard. After paging GMs several times about it and not getting any kind of assistance, I've come to stratics to ask other posters to please, PLEASE, PLEASE if they know this person or persons like this, please ask them to stop doing such a petty thing. I see this happening with cu sidhes as well (where the griefer moved them to the Meer town). It needs to stop. I just want maybe a couple of hours a day to work my skill in peace. I figured such actions would be considered griefing or some kind of harassment since it's happening in trammel.