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Why Faction Titles Should Show in Trammel

Discussion in 'UHall' started by GalenKnighthawke, Jul 14, 2008.

  1. GalenKnighthawke

    GalenKnighthawke Grand Poobah
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    It's simple, really.

    We're fighting the Shadowlords.

    One of the Factions is the Shadowlords.

    Given the choice, and knowledge, my character Galen would have little good reason to assist (resurrect, heal, etc.) a member of the Shadowlords Faction.

    Especially in the middle of, say, fighting the Vanguard spawn.

    Hmmm....This was a bad time to post this; I doubt the team will see it this late and the post will probably fall far off page one by tomorrow morning.

    Oh well.

    -Galen's player
     
  2. Omnius

    Omnius Crazed Zealot
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    sorry but trammel ruleset is for everyone to play cooperatively and lovingly. if you do anything to anyone or produce any perceived slights, you'll get a gm called on you for griefing. Seriously... I recently had to have a 5 minute convo in jail on the basis that i was ressing everyone but 1 guy due to his guild and the gm was under the impression it might be griefing..
     
  3. Dol'Gorath

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    Ressing is a priveledge not a right. Who the hell is the ingame staff to tell you you should be ressing people?
     
  4. Omnius

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    the gm yielded that point in a couple of minutes. As I said, the whole encounter lasted 5minutes but he took me from mid fight at a spawn to jail...
     
  5. Ash

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    Guess only matter of time before I end up in jail as I have not only not rezzed someone but laughed at them. :) Wasn't because of his guild tag, was because he was being a jerk and luring monsters away from other people to solo them and then cursed people out that even came close to him. So when he bit off more than he could chew, I had a good laugh.

    In general I will rez guilds I don't care much for until the individual proves to be a jerk, then he has a long walk to a shrine.
     
  6. GalenKnighthawke

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    Oh dear, that is a bad one.....I wonder how the GMs will react to 2 guilds in Trammel being at war!

    Funny how they won't respond to rez killing, but they will respond to non-rezzing?

    It's great that you didn't get in trouble and that it didn't take forever to get there, but.....I am honestly offended that this call was answered at all!!!

    I've had a fair amount of people that didn't like me, and haven't rezzed me, and have even laughed at me upon death. You mean all that time I could have paged and at least had them marginally inconvenienced?

    Damn, why didn't I think of that....Minor inconvenience upon your enemies is way better than nothing!

    -Galen's player
     
  7. Dermott of LS

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    ...

    On the one hand, I'm glad that I RARELY ever have need of a GM, on the other, assuming that even 1/10th of the GM stories like this are true, the UO GMs need some BIGTIME lessons in how to moderate the game.
     
  8. Gildar

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    Faction titles should show everywhere. You aren't no longer in the faction just because you're not in Felucca. It would make it much easier to go "Hey! More people in my faction are on! Let's try to get them to join me in Felucca to capture some towns!"
    It would also make it easier for players to go "Hey... is he in TWO guilds? *walks over* Hey buddy - how are you in CoM and HoC?" "HoC is my guild. CoM is a faction. You can participate in factions by ..."


    Omnius - You should've sent in a review about that GM; they shouldn't ever be doing something like that.
     
  9. GalenKnighthawke

    GalenKnighthawke Grand Poobah
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    *nods, nods*

    -Galen's player
     
  10. Omnius

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    I'm sure my reviews aren't read anymore. I've left maybe 3 good reviews and 20 bad ones over the last like 3 months....
     
  11. Chad Sexington

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    If they showed in Trammel a lot of people would sneak into Felucca, join a faction, get a fancy title, go back to Trammel and never participate again.

    :stir:
     
  12. Chad Sexington

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    Not to mention that the number of people in a faction wouldn't be representative of the number of people actually fighting regularly. The numbers could be stacked and because of the way factions try to balance numbers, joining different factions would be borked.

    :stir:
     
  13. Gildar

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    Well factions no longer has any number balancing... so that doesn't matter any more.
    And you could always make it so there are two counts for every faction - total members, and active members. Active members are those who have crafted faction gear, stolen a sigil, killed enemy-aligned faction monsters, killed an enemy faction member, or been killed by an enemy faction member.

    I don't see what the problem is with people doing it just for the title. Why can't somebody show their support for one of the sides, but not actively fight for it?
     
  14. Chad Sexington

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    Yes.

    I would be in favor of titles that read, "Shadowlord Supporter" or something similar.

    :stir:
     
  15. GalenKnighthawke

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    So? Their loss. Especially if I or others happen to decline to rez or heal them on the basis of a Faction membership that they do not really feel. Add injury to insult.

    Oh, and about your other point, as someone else also pointed out, there is no more load balancing.

    -Galen's player
     
  16. ColterDC

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    I've always been of the opinion that Factions should work on every facet.

    If you join factions you would be able to pvp everywhere, thus encouraging more people to join and also it would expose more people to pvp who regularly might never see it.

    The 1 thing (and it was the only thing!!!) that I liked about WoW was how you were able to watch giant pvp battles without having to get involved or you could join in the fight if you wanted to. Especially with the predetermined sides of the horde and alliance, people who might not normally be interested in pvp were naturally inclined to defend "their" towns.

    I think alot of people who don't frequent Fel regularly are put off by all the negatives posted on the boards and spread in the game. If they actually saw some of the fun battles we have in Fel, they might be more inclined to join.
     
  17. Landicine

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    Not sure how it is on other shards, but points seem to decay pretty quickly in my faction on LS and the active people tend to keep the good titles and positions. I don't care how many people are off in Trammel with a random title as long as they aren't actively trying to mess with my faction (killing alts in other factions to become commander, setting tithing to 100%, betraying their fellows during key battles, stealing sigils and letting another faction kill them for it).
     
  18. JC the Builder

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    The only reason Factions is any good is because it only takes place in Felucca. If you want to fight everywhere start a guild war with someone.
     
  19. TheScoundrelRico

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    Join Siege, you won't have to worry about Trammel. :) ...la
     
  20. Seismic

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    Do you offer any other wisdom except "join siege" with each post? It's getting old and annoying.
     
  21. ColterDC

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    Why join a faction to fight in Fel? Can already fight whoever you want there.

    And guild wars suck 90% of the time.
     
  22. TheScoundrelRico

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    Join Siege if you don't like it...la
     
  23. Wenchkin

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    Leave factions, the titles and the pretty ponies in Fel please. If a player wants to pose or continue the faction battle in Tram, they can war opposing faction guilds, then get a title from their GM if it matters that much.

    I'd rather they just fix the botched up beneficial acts change that was made, before adding yet more content to cater to faction players who accidentally wander into the wrong facet. We really don't need fixes like that...

    Wenchy
     
  24. Righteous

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    If I was hauled off to jail each time I didnt rez some one because of the guild they are in or because they are being jerks I would spend a great deal of my time in jail. I am usually fairly easy going but once you tick me off I am not inclind to do favors for you any longer.

    Righteous
     
  25. Gildar

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    I don't think the fighting should move out of Felucca. One of the nice things with Factions is that you can fight for a side, but still have somewhere to go where you don't need to worry about PvP. It gives people a nice way to casually participate in group PvP.
     
  26. Tina Small

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    Galen, you didn't specify what you mean by "faction titles." Do you mean just the name of your faction or your faction rank title?

    I'm curious too...would you feel the same about this if Galen's title was just "Defender, True Britannians Faction" versus "Commanding Lord, True Britannians Faction"?
     
  27. GalenKnighthawke

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    For my purpose, either would do.

    And yes.

    I'm puzzled by your suggesting that actually.

    -Galen's player