I've been reading stratics for a couple months now because of the classic shard debate. One thing I noticed is that a lot of people still really dislike reds and Fel in general. Why? Is it because of pre UO:R days? UO has been a consentual PvP game ever since May, 2000, when Tram was introduced. It's just a different playstyle (PvP) although it's a minority. I quit in 2004 and the Fel vs. Tram debate was still in full swing centered mostly on scrolls. So is it greed? Reading stratics made me miss UO and after 4 years of WoW I re-activated my account. I haven't set foot in Fel yet, my gear suck and none of my characters are scrolled, but if I did and got killed it wouldn't bother me at all. I know the risk of going to Fel. I have the option to not participate.