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Why no option of a second house on an alternate shard

Discussion in 'UHall' started by Ender, Aug 25, 2011.

  1. Ender

    Ender Crazed Zealot
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    I understand one house per shard and not being able to have a house on every shard, sure, but this game is getting so low in population that I'd like to be able to play another shard without having to get rid of my house on my main shard. And I'm sure the majority of the players would like that too.

    So come on devs, at least sell a code for it. You'd make tons of cash off of it and it can't be too hard to code.

    Maybe for the 14th anniversary? :heart:
     
  2. :lol:


    no​

    extra housing /=/ "More players"

    how are you gonna honestly say: Main ... when you have two?

    did either of your girlfriends "agree" ?

    :talktothehand: Barney already WON UO ...
    don't pretend that you can two, to, too, tu ..,:( also?

    What would you do with the "other" house IF players started coming back and shards resumed with the crowding?

    PICK a shard as Main, place your house there
    Pick another as secondary, co-own a house there
    pick a third as a tertiary backup, live out of you bank box or with guildies good graces
    pick a forth if 1,2,3 are deserted, live out of the Inn and bank box, travel lite
    pick a fifth as some place to visit, newly created characters may suffice
    pick a sixth as only for stockpiling holiday gifts, against the day that it May become 5th, 4th, 3th ... rd, 2nd or first ... 1st
    *pulls off sock*

    oh my god what the heck is that SMELLLLLL ????????????
     
  3. Larisa

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    Main shard-Origin (Lives out of bank)

    Secondary shard-Atlantic-(18x18 in Tram)

    Thirdary shard :)lol:)- Siege (lives in the NEW Hotel atm)

    Fourth...yeah shard-Napa (My original shard, lives out of bank)

    I think that's about it..am planning on playing Baja as well, I have some friends there.

    I don't mind livin outta da bank, saves me alot of space ;) I tend to collect alot lol.
     
  4. Dermott of LS

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    It would definitely help me to have two houses per acct/one per shard as I'd finally be able to move the house on my main acct (which has a grandfathered house on Chessy from when you could have 1 house per shard on an acct) over by my cabin instead of halfway across the continent as it is now (cabin is south of Minoc, house is outside of Skara, north-east across the bay).

    Beyond my own situation, I also think it would be a boon to Siege as it would allow prodo-shard players to have a base there as well and maybe, just maybe bring in some people who will end up enjoying the shard.

    Also it would help those who may not shard-hop all the time, but may have a "home" shard and a "visit" shard.

    The housing rules were tightened because of the lack of house space... something that isn't an issue in the current UO day and age due to not only a smaller player-base, but more shards than there used to be and a LOT more housing space.

    Maybe add in a restriction of tiles so that a player can have a castle on one shard and a small < 10x10 plot on another, or maybe not even worry about that at all, who knows.

    Yeah it might drop sub rates down some, but it would make a lot more players happier overall, and it's an idea that gets my vote MANY times over the "shard merger" idea that gets floated occasionally.
     
  5. claudia-fjp

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    If you were a landlord who owned a half empty duplex would you just let your tenant have the other half free of charge?
     
  6. Dermott of LS

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    UO /= renting out a duplex. You're comparing apples and dump trucks.
     
  7. Ender

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    Yeah I would be absolutely fine with a restricted size. As long as you're able to have a house on another shard.

    It would definitely get rid of one of the reasons many people refuse to play Siege too.

    And if they're worried about subs, make it two houses per account, one per shard. Not one per shard per account. One extra house per account won't cause a huge drop in subs. And just charge $19.99 or $29.99 or whatever for the ability to do it.
     
  8. claudia-fjp

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    No I'm not. Maybe you didn't get the comparison. I'm comparing combining 2 individual sources of income into 1 for half the price. If I can see that then even an EA suit can. Duplex or UO accounts they aren't going to allow someone to have multiple for the price of one. They know very well, especially after this account migration fubar, that they get a ton of their money from people with 10+ accounts to hold houses. Why would they cut down on that income shooting their bottom line in the foot?

    Trust me, I love the idea of owning multiple houses on 1 account. I could close several forever. However they'd be morons to do it.
     
  9. >Existing players<

    Fair point managing an "asset"/grandfathered house ... ya got TWO, Now
    and it (?) would cost you one to move the other ...
    I'm just wondering what the point would be, considering the low pop condition
    of >giving< a survivor(>Existing player<) More room to store More junk (can't play both >at once< now can they)
    and making it more likely to drop one holding account, generating payments ...
    and the shards remaining >just< as many houses/ and as few players ...
    with whatever LESS income remains ...

    Looks good on the surface as a reasonable thang in regards a single player on a single account

    BUT the Multi account single player(single owner/payer)
    could(would be smart money wise TO) stop paying Half the holding accounts (3pymnts a year)
    and STILL have the storage filled for the inactive accounts ... a house's worth and accessible, more so even .. free .. and the stocked characters in stasis

    when >> that "income bubble bursts" small as it might be ...

    Well if the games does go down(over lack of income) ... it goes down with all aboard ... yes?

    *shrugs* Just saying, yes ... I think >each paying account< is of concern >at this time< ...
    I know for a FACT that there will be two "slots" to fill and replace of steady income, come january.
    I suspect there will be a slow winking out of "forgotten" auto accounts because of the recent disturbance of the migration (at least a few each month for the next five months)
    and all that played out against the known trickle of normal attrition, lost friends, lost interest, too few people to login and fail to get a good fishing party of three with any regularity ... they'll look ... but after 20 minutes (which used to be an hour) ... they'll give up and leave (or just log out ... but for how many more times? ).

    To be frank, I maybe being too maudlin and over cautious. things were somewhat stable, looking up in fact, for me, larisa back and perky as ever, an ingame rp friend returned, firedup! and raring to go, full of stories and ideas, had a successful finish to a set of arcs on a shard that a friend had asked assistance with ... was recently returned to the "Home sweet home shard", placed houses in more desirable spots, one on the place of an old enemy ... sweet revenge that, I'll Tell you ... 7 years of a bitter vendetta grudge ... and I get the win, the spot, the keep. the HA! outlasted you! Dancing on your grave-site in sweet vindication and joy ..

    *shrugs* maybe THAT "jinxed it"

    Migration started two days later, and three days after that ... was trying to wrangle a way out of closing the accounts ...
    No way around it though; Family law: money handlers ONLY get ONE fumble, never an excuse or a do-over ...
    *shrugs*
    has worked perfectly for the family for over a hundred and fifty years, no means no and Once means one, to err results in a mark on your permanent record,
    and it would be(IS! by god!) stupid to die with a lie on your lips or in your heart or to be discovered by a family member,

    never mind "the public" ...

    stupid honor ... made me quit.

    I maybe being too maudlin and over cautious. But to be frank, one should also be honest, this feels like a "final settling in".
    This feels like a deathbed watch.
    granted, I promised(myself, outloud) to be among the Last present when the lights went out ... Don't know if I can do it from the sidelines, and find out another unforeseen(recently realized)
    ... from the sidelines I may detect that >everyone is gone< and yet, the lights remain on, the harddisks are idling ... waiting for someone to log on ...
    O'well
    Time Will tell
    I'm just not enjoying the current direction, but I might be pleasantly surprised by the next twist.

    Fayled.Blow, winds, and crack your cheeks! rage! blow!
    You cataracts and hurricanes, spout
    Till you have drench’d our steeples, drown’d the flocks!
    You sulphurous and thought-executing fires,
    Vaunt-couriers to oak-cleaving thunderbolts,
    Singe my white head! And thou, all-shaking thunder,
    Strike flat the thick rotundity o’ the world!
    Crack nature’s moulds, all germens spill at once
    That make ingrateful man!

    Fool. O nuncle, court holy-water in a dry house
    is better than this rain-water out o’ door.
    Good nuncle, in, and ask thy families’ blessing;
    here’s a night pities neither wise man nor fool.

    Fayled. Rumble thy bellyful! Spit, fire! spout, rain!
    Nor rain, wind, thunder, fire, are my Avatars:
    I tax not you, you elements, with unkindness;
    I never gave you kingdom, call’d you as My alts,
    You owe me no subscription: swiftly then, let fall
    Your horrible pleasure; here I stand, your audience,
    A poor, infirm, weak, and despis’d old man.
    You heavens, give me that patience, patience I need!
    You see me here, you gods, a poor old man,
    As full of grief as age; wretched in both!
    If it be you that stir these characters’ hearts
    Against their fellow player, fool me not so much
    To bear it tamely; touch me with noble anger,
    And let not women’s weapons, water-drops,
    Stain my man’s cheeks! No, you unnatural thing, No!
    I will have such revenges on UO accountants
    That all the world shall—
    I will do such things,—
    What they are yet I know not,—
    but they shall be Great and The terrors of the earth.
    You think I’ll weep;
    No, I’ll not Weep ...

    sorry billy, lear is just Soooo roleplay
     
  10. Uvtha

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    Like others have suggested before people should just have 18x18 worth of housing (like 2 9x9's etc) and they can be on any shard.

    However, that would probably require a tonnnnnnn of work, so it wont happen.
     
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    QFT
     
  12. Merion

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    I can understand the business decision to not allow that, even tho I'd throw money at them to buy a second house code - just not another 130 euros a year for a second account.

    But allowing one house on a prodo shard and an additional house on either Siege or Mugen would certainly help the siege-ruleset shards.
     
  13. Lynk

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    What the hell is wrong with you?
     
  14. Ender

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    Copious amounts of alcohol? I dunno. There's an ignore list for a reason. It's so nice :3
     
  15. kelmo

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    I can only assume Fayled believes he is amusing. That or he is merely a troll...:spider:
     
  16. Siteswap

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    I believe its neither. Its an ego trip.
     
  17. icm420

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    I skip over anything this guy ever posts, it never makes sense and it usually makes me want to smack an old person. :(
     
  18. icm420

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    I think the idea of one house per account came about because when uo started you could place as many houses as you wanted and then there was a housing shortage. Obviously uo doesn't have that many people playing anymore, and there is a ton of land to place on, tram, fel, malas, tokuno, and now ter mur. So I don't see any issues with it, making it cost money should certainly make EA like the idea.
     
  19. Woodsman

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    EA gets up to $156 a year per house as it stands, $120 if you buy your game time 6 months at a time. Even the 90 day types are still paying over $40 a year to keep their houses.

    EA isn't going to give up that kind of money.
     
  20. nothing really ... ^^that is just acknowledging that "my feet stink" and That I was having difficulty tracking numbers and typing at the same time ...

    as opposed to SOME FOLK :eyes: rolleyes: that think they ain't got no stink >at all< :scholar:*ahem*:scholar:

    Larisa had a similar "solution" ... different priorities ... but ...
    I wasn't carving stuff outta stone here ...

    Got anything on topic?
    a yea or nay or a maybe so or a what if or a what about?

    I did a tangentially related piece over here
    housing related but, more towards houses and grace periods and stuffs.

    these second houses on a same account?

    >I say< do away with "the grace" period all the way then ...
     
  21. Larisa

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    Well priorites are...wait..priorities...there we go..is that right? *scratches head* whatever...you get my point..

    priorities are there..here..everywhere..depending on what the body wants.

    IF I wanted more then one house, I would be more then happy to pay for it...well isn't that what ya'll are doin' now with the more then one account deal? You are *paying* for that extra house...some say..let me pay $19.00 USD for the chance to have another house...

    You DO realize that...with another account you're ONLY paying..$12.99 for that extra house?

    LETS MAKE A DEAL!!

    Sure having a second house on one account would be nice...sure accounts would be closed..but what of the accounts that are NOT closed...those with 10...or more..accounts...that's 10..or more..houses...JUST ONE PERSON....ya'll complain now about..*houses that should fall but are not*

    So YOU...can take those spots?

    Okay so I wanna pay for an extra house..you ARE....having another account is just a *bonus*...pay for one house..pay for a whole account...I see I see a ONE TIME payment for an extra house...well I say :thumbdown:

    I say IF you want a second house...you pay rent..YES RENT....maybe $5 USD per month...maybe more depending on size...SIZE MATTERS :love:

    I also agree with Fayled that timers should be reset back to 30 days...*runs from pitchforks and torches*

    Ya'll playin' the 90 roulette game hate that idea...but you want the extra house? SO you pay for it...just like everyone else...
     
  22. THP

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    exrtra housing token codes..coming soon...$49.00
     
  23. Striga

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    :thumbup1:I agree more than one house x account if not in the same shard.:thumbup1:
     
  24. Tinsil

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    Yeah they might sell it as a code, but not just giving it.

    People pay $13 a month specifically to keep certain houses up.. They aren't giving up that revenue.
     
  25. Ender

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    Anyone that keeps multiple houses on one shard will still keep those multiple accounts. Just limit it to two houses per account, one house per shard.
     
  26. Lady Storm

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    When I started UO housing wasnt an issue... staying alive was.

    When players bitched so much for more space more room for house's well the great minds at EA got smart and had 1 house and one house only per account put in.
    They were briliant!
    All that extra$$$$$ off your backs... they could smell the bonus in their pay packs!!
    But I am one of the few who would love to go back to 1 house per shard. I could cut back on a few accounts but they have been shifting on and off for years... IF I could condence and thats a pipe dream... EA would make far more money off me then they do now.
    I would agree that if they opened up the houseing to more then one per shard there would be an initial run to combine accounts down to max but in the long run I bet they would still use the other accounts because of storage.

    Today we want more storage... I expect them to charge for the next big increese.
    (the way the dev could stop all need for space is give all houses the same storage limit of the max on a castle no matter what size house. (a 7x7 would be crazy to fill but some would try!!)

    Bottom line If EA was smart they would sell you account house additions, unlimited amount for any shard but its guna cost you $$ to do and they are static to account meaning you cant sell.
     
  27. Tinsil

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    I would like it too.. It's just more revenue for them lost, so it's probably not gonna happen. :mf_prop:
     
  28. Striga

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    :thumbup1: will be ok :thumbup1:
     
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    And conversley, anyone who keeps multiple houses across more than one shard, will close accounts, therefore lost revenue. Aint happening. EA arent that stupid.

    Edit: Maybe it will happen. Now I think about it, EA really are that stupid.