Over on The Pub at MMORPG.COM message boards there's a locked thread titled "Having an "adventure" again?". Basically, a bunch of bored gamers looking for something less grindy and more like old fashioned MMO game play is trying to find a game to all go to, for that old "adventure" feeling, in a Sandbox game. They've listed a bunch of possible games to consider for their choice, and listed pro's and con's for each. UO's notes: + Wide-open sandbox + Low system specs - Really hard to start in nowadays - Point-and-click system of movement can get annoying. So I'd like to congratulate the existing player base who have wanted bigger, better, but primarily to protect their top of the food chain, powergamer elite status. The game is now so hard to start in that few will even try, and fewer still will stick it out when they see the long road to even starting to become competitive.