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Wipe the shards, let's start clean!

Discussion in 'UHall' started by UOANDMEFOREVER, Aug 3, 2008.

  1. Please, just wipe the shards and let us start over clean!

    There is so much duped stuff that the game needs a restart.
     
  2. Dol'Gorath

    Dol'Gorath Grand Inquisitor
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    Do that and I'll go from re-subscribing every 2 months to none at all.
     
  3. Beldon

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    Why, were you banned?
     
  4. Lady Aalia

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    i will be damned if i remark all my 600-700 runebooks again.....

    this will not solve anything :coco:
     
  5. Ya.. You say that, but in reality, you'll continue to play.

    95% of everyone who says they will quit will continue to play the game. Those who do quit will be replaced by resubscribes looking for a fresh start.

    Really.. What does it matter anymore? I have hundreds and hundreds of millions of gold built up. I'm very away of the fact that much of it was probably made off duped items over the years. Start over clean.

    Let the dev team try their best to patch the dupes and then LEAVE THE CODE ALONE. No more updates. Every time they introduce an update, they introduce new dupes it seems like.
     
  6. Dermott of LS

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    Want to guarantee that I can obtain items I have had for upwards of 10 years that CANNOT be obtained through current gameplay again?

    Want to guarantee that I can get the current house placements I have now?
     
  7. Uh...no.

    If you want a wipe, then you're more than welcome to toss everything you own in a trash barrel, then drop your house.
     
  8. Coranthe

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    I'd go for a wipe if they did it like this:
    1.Empty all bank boxes except for actual gold.
    2.Empty all houses, leaving the house.
    3.Empty all characters' backpacks.
    4.Leave each character's equipped stuff as is.

    Sure that would leave some equipment that probably shouldn't be here but not much.

    Also, unless they fix the dupes first this won't accomplish anything.
     
  9. Lady_Mina

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    only if...i can keep my looks and skills...
    And if you wipe those chinese lands , ilshenar and malas of the map aswell.
     
  10. Sunrise

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    hrm..K good idea wipe all the shards...Ok..and the minute the game is back up and running...The dupes will find a way to do what they do best and the honest players will be gone. Simple as that. So next idea.....


    Didn't ever quest do this a few years back? and look were they are at.

    For every dupe they ban..the cheaters go out buy the game make a new account..and then try and find another way to break the system. I have to give some credit at least to UO that they are trying to solve this problem.
     
  11. Cysphruo

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    im for a clean start but i dont think they could fix the dupes :(

    people would say i must not have anything to loose but on the contrary i have a lot more then the average player, i wont go into a list but i have alot more then most.
     
  12. THP

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    Hopefully U Are Talking About =

    Uo2

    Fresh Game...fresh Start....real Nice Graphics....not Kr!!
     
  13. Erekose

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    No.

    Nothing to see here. Move along.
     
  14. NuSair

    NuSair Babbling Loonie
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    I would be interested to see, if they started a new shard from scratch, how it would evolve.
     
  15. Sarphus

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    If you really want a wipe, go play on siege.

    I don't want all my stuff wiped.
     
  16. Mechanic

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    I would totally be on board with a shard wide wipe, but what about the tokens and stuff people bought from the UO store?
     
  17. Skwiz

    Skwiz Guest

    Wipe away ;) dupes arnt a problem on siege

    ( leave siege alone ) Lol

    /end
     
  18. Doomsday Dragon

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    Up yours. You only have 15 posts and I already don't like you.

    You want a shard without all the problems go to siege because that shard is like uo was from the start.

    Do everyone here and yourself a favor just stop posting here if you cannot put even an ounce of thought into what you are typing.
     
  19. Surgeries

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    LOL...that's some funny stuff there, Beldon.

    Like they would tell us if they were, but I like the way you think.
     
  20. Radun

    Radun Guest

    ya! and free subscriptions for everyoneee
     
  21. ImaNoobieToo

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    Create new shards with no char x-fers!
     
  22. Demonous

    Demonous Rares Fest Host | Ches Jul 2010
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    if this happens UO would die, 90% of its player base would be gone in a heartbeat, i've worked too hard over 8 years to accumulate all i have, i had 800 mil at 1 point doing nothing illegal, it is very easy to make money these days, i never hunt monsters that is just boring, i do idocs make a ton from idocs, and i havent done thousands of idocs just for it all to count for nothing, thats just stupid
     
  23. Lore Master

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    No offense but this is the worst idea i ever heard in these forums. if they did that all my rares and items i worked so hard for would just go poof i have alot of rares a few uber rares too that i am very proud to have. i am one of the rare collectors not a huge one but one none the least if they wiped all the shards i would lose all of them and my keep and i surely would quit uo for good i basically live for rares in UO.
     
  24. kelmo

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    It is not gonna happen. *nods*
     
  25. Setnaffa

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    I'd be OK with a gold-wipe. That's probably as much as most players would accept.

    They'd also have to suspend all gold trades before putting this into effect, or players would just start buying up anything of value. In other words, without any warning, announce all gold will be wiped from all current, suspended, and expired accounts over the next 24 hours. During that 24 hours players can't use gold at all. They can't move it or drop it. They can't buy anything or sell anything. All vendors (NPC or Player) are disabled. After the completion of the gold-wipe, everything returns to normal.

    Of course they'd also have fix all known dupes and exploits and make gold harder to acquire to really make this work.
     
  26. J0KING

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    Ummmm... no... wait maybe i answered a little brashly without thinking... hmmmm... nope... not in agreement at all...

    I have been playing a long time and have aquired everything that I own thru fair play... started off with a little 7x7 and have worked up to having almost an entire mountainside... lets keep the consequences to those who have not played fairly and leave the rest of us out of it :)
     
  27. Aibal

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    I nominate this OP's post for worst idea of the year. Though I don't have 10 years in the game, I have worked hard for what I have. I don't cheat/dupe, and I refuse to pay the price for those that do. If they wiped everything I had, I would close my accounts and say goodbye permanently. Sorry, not going to happen.
     
  28. /signed.

    all the decent players lose everything and the first gold coin dupers find is insta rich again!

    /sarcasm
     
  29. Rosalinda

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    Oh, YESS!!!! imho UO inflation really took off when x-fers were introduced.

    When Origin shard started, I was thrilled! No x-fers in, no x-fers out - hooray! Level playing field, everyone truly equal, but with Trammel ruleset. Nobody had the edge by being loaded down with heavy-duty artis.

    By crafting and selling goods to NPC's, I soon had a little house (small marble), but it didn't take long to get a tower (the first I'd ever had), with plenty of choice as to location. And I started a Doom thief, seeing Origin as the only place I could ever get some of the really cool stuff I'd never have been able to afford on my home shard (Europa).

    When Origin was added to the x-fer shards, that all stopped. *sigh* But if only there was somewhere like that (no thanks, NOT Siege, it's just that I'm a real coward - and far too accustomed to Tram ruleset now) - well, then I'd not feel so ...so... I dunno, just unenthusiastic atm I guess.
     
  30. GarthGrey

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    Totally hilarious thread. Not the topic, I agree, wipe it all and start over. The hilarious part are the "Hell no, I"ve worked too hard"....uhh, HUH???? You've "worked" too hard? The people that say NO are the ones that can't wait for the current duping rares dealers to be banned, so they can silently step in and take their own turn at controlling the Luna market....absolutely hilarious....."10 years of hard work Precious!!!", "They won't get us Precious.....they won't get us"......hilarious...:D
     
  31. Velvathos

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    Only way I would be ok with a shard wipe is if they did a few things..

    Make all the servers like Siege, but non-advanced, and then make all the items how they were during pre-aos days.. Really, it's all they need to do..
     
  32. Landicine

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    Posts like this always lead to sarcasm. I'll start:

    I was thinking about it, and this would solve the problem of cheaters in UO. Games with no players have no cheaters. Think about it:

    1. Many players would quit right away in disgust.
    2. Cheaters would have to work extra hard to keep up with the demand of those still playing who buy everything for cash. They would get sloppy and get caught and banned.
    3. More players would quit.
    4. Eventually the game would be shut down.

    I have to say that "stopped rampant cheating in an online game" looks good on a resume to any dev team members that are currently looking for a new job and don't mind putting a bullet in UO.
     
  33. Laina

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    So again, the honest players should be punished for the actions of dupers? there are plenty of people who have "worked hard" setting up just little things like rune libraries and such. What about items from the shard's history? Items of sentimental value?

    What will be done about the dupers? They have been around for years. How is wiping all the items going to help? Well, it may help the dupers since as soon as they get a hold of the artifacts, runics, gold etc again they will be able to make even MORE money from it since no one has the item and everyone wants one.

    Sorry but your suggestion just doesn't make any sense to me...
     
  34. I agree with you.
     
  35. Chad Sexington

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    If there is a shard wipe, leave Siege alone. Its economy is still intact.

    :grouphug:
     
  36. Olahorand

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    No to that "idea".
    Many (if not most) of the current players are playing because of their history in the game and the accumulated posessions.
    If my collection of whispering roses, guild stones, rares collection, houses etc would be gone, I would be as well with all accounts.
    *Salute*
    Olahorand
     
  37. Eslake

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    Well I DO have 10 years in the game, but you know something....

    I would say YES.


    IF it meant there was 0 chance of scripting, duping, or any of the other forms of cheating that have happened over the years.

    Yes, I would lose things that could not be replaced (including 2 true uniques) but there will always be new ones to discover and track down.

    I suspect if they actually did a full wipe (which they never would) a lot of players would leave, but far more would take their place as returning UOers to a game that was cheat-free.

    It isn't as if skilling up is difficult, or accumulating wealth. The only things that could not be replaced in a couple of months would be unique items and items that can no longer be created.
    But it comes down to what you value more :
    UO as a whole, free of cheaters and with an economy only damaged by the overabundance of gold on creatures...
    Or your own personal collection of rares.
     
  38. Landicine

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    I would say this is a flawed argument. I would say I value community over the items I own. The only real value of my items have is the sentimental value which comes from the people in the community who I've spent time with. If it meant helping the community in a significant way, I'd gladly give up my trinkets and baubles.

    But it wouldn't help the community in a significant way.

    As a few have said, most bigtime dupers and scripters transfer their wealth into real world cash. They won't lose out from a wipe. If anything it will create a market for more ill gotten gains as the people who stay feel pressure to get back to their old levels of power. This market will mean that cheating remains profitable, so people will find new ways to cheat. Eventually, we'd be back were we started after punishing a few thousand innocent players.

    These aren't the same dupes of years past. These are new bugs that people are finding and exploiting. So explain to me how a wipe would actually make UO cheat-free? Don't most scripters still get away with it constantly? It is a solution that only deals with a symptom to the problem without actually dealing with the problem. There have been fresh new shards over the years, and within a few months or years, they have the same problems the rest of our shards have.

    Let's deal with the problem. Let's suggest actual solutions instead of dystopic dreams:

    1. Better money and item tracking in the code.

    2. Greater limits on newbie and temporary accounts.

    3. More limits on moving across shards.