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Would you welcome favourably an 8th Character slot (2nd on Siege and Mugen) ?

Discussion in 'UHall' started by popps, Apr 30, 2014.

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Would you welcome favourably an 8th Character slot (2nd on Siege and Mugen) ?

Poll closed May 10, 2014.
  1. Yes ! I would be all in favour of an 8th Character slot (2nd on Siege Muegen) !

    28 vote(s)
    53.8%
  2. No ! I do not see this additional slot as particularly usefull.

    21 vote(s)
    40.4%
  3. I am not sure, would first need more informations and details about it to decide.

    3 vote(s)
    5.8%
  1. popps

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    I was thinking, together with the Return to Britannia, there could be the bonus of a free 8th slot (2nd for Siege and Mugen) for new accounts started after the Return to Britannia gets started, but also available to existing accounts for a little fee (code purchaseable at the EA Store).

    I thought to see with a Poll whether or not there may be a request for this.

    Personally, I would favour it since on the shard I play all of my 7 Characters are kinda tailored up for the Shard I play more frequently and I would hate to either delete any of them or transfer any of them to another shard. So, an 8th character slot (together with a 2nd one for Siege and Mugen), would come quite handy.....

    Anyways, let's see the votes !
     
  2. DJAd

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    Id buy one. As a business move I don't thing EA/mythic/origin/broadsword etc would like it. They really want you to open another account.
     
  3. Aurelius

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    Same applies for me, but I don't see any problem....

    I don't have any one character so indispensible I can't not let them go to another shard for a couple of days and then return - and if I want them to go somewhere else permanently, then that's what I would do with them - so again, not an issue.
     
  4. Lady CaT

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    Most people like free stuff , so I'm not sure its much of a real vote.

    But does this really help UO as a for profit company constantly giving away everything for free. I mean producers, developers, Q&A, marketing, etc... don't really work for free. And of course you always get the quantity and quality for which you pay.

    So I guess I would be more in favor of no additional characters. If you want more slots its really simple. Buy a second account and get more slots.

    I think the Return to Britannia idea has passed its prime. Lets be honest, I think some people use it more for free long term storage they could access once a year. Yes its definitely nice to see more people in game. Really I think we all desire some new players that will actually play the game long term and support UO with an ongoing subscription. Popping in for a free month once a year, lamenting for the good ole days, and then quitting again, doesn't really do those of us who play long term much good. And actually they are kind of a buzz kill for the game I and others enjoy.

    Besides there is a 24/7 Return to Britannia program already, its called 14 Day Free Trial. Anyone who wants to see their friends or how the game has changed can do that at any time.
     
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  5. popps

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    Well, in my suggestion the free promotion would be only for the 8th slot (2nd on Siege and Mugen), the newly started account would still need to be paid for for its 30 days subscription....

    Existing accounts that wanted to benefit from an 8th chracter slot (2nd on Siege and Mugen), would still need to purchase the code.... That's at least as I imagined it....
     
  6. RaDian FlGith

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    Here's the main problem with this suggestion as a promotional item: It has absolutely no perceived value to a new player. As something that could be sold to existing players, certainly the idea has merit, but what good is an 8th character slot to someone who already has 6, and is unlikely to fill them all within the trial period? This, of course, also fails to take into account that the 7th character slot is not free either.

    As a marketing tool to draw in new players, truthfully, there are other things that would be effective.
     
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    FYI I didn't vote because although I would LOVE an 8th char slot, I personally don't play Siege, and therefor would not want to vote on adding another char there as I know a few hardcore Siege players that would prefer it stay 1 char per account.
     
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    Is vote just to bring an 8th character slot upgrade..odds are it'll never happen tho


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  9. Captn Norrington

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    If it were for sale, I would buy it, however like others have said it would have absolutely no value to a new player who already has 5-7 characters to use
     
  10. Gedgerez Tesherd

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    To heck with siege & mugen, no offense but they got the extra house perc, I would want an 8th slot rolled on production shards (plays siege also, but needed a touch of bitterness to appear convincing ;)).
     
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    I would buy it
     
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    I didn't vote because I don't think we should add another character slot to Siege/Mugen. Siege/Mugen is suppose to be a hard shard with only one character per account. An 8th character slot for production shards, sure.

    But, as others have pointed out, this would have absolutely no value to new players.
     
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    Step up and buy another account.
     
  14. Lady Storm

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    Long ago a player made a request that the Dev consider a consolidation of shards as his was so vacant of players. Many here jumped down his throat and nerly gutted the poor guy... though some were in favor he also requested that if they did such that a linking of both character lists be done as the few shards he played had full lists. While I wouldnt mind a extra slot, I wonder if such was possible, a character slot list that one could move all of your characters to one shard list and it be able to hold it.
    hmmm let me explain that a tad better.
    Say you had max characters on 3 different shards and they were all fully developed and there fore not something you wish to leave dangeling.
    You want to make 1 shard your home due to population concerns, Would this be possible for the Dev to consider?
     
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    I think 7 is enough. There has to be a cap somewhere.
    If not, if they add an 8th char slot this year, 2-3 years down the road people will start wanting a 9th and so on.

    There is always the option of a second account or soulstones.
     
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  17. Lady Storm

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    ok Siege has spoken :bowdown:
     
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    Would be bad for business. While people on Siege use plenty of soulstones, you can't easily switch your stats (especially since there's a daily cap on stat gain). Adding a 2nd slot would allow people to have both mage and dexxer templates on the same account. Myself, I would close an account right away. It would also mean a loss in revenue equivalent of 6-7 soulstones.

    Might be different for Prodo. If you can't manage with 7 slots, it won't take long before you can't manage 8. Maybe introduce recurrent revenues by having premium accounts of different levels.

    Zalfein
     
  19. Lug

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    I'd pay 5 -10 bucks per extra character slot. I'd like to buy up to 50 slots per account given the chance.

    I have tons of soul stones but they are to limited for my play style and tastes.

    I like building new characters and love how they develop unique personalities and talents as I play them. I love how people react differently to my different characters. I have many different moods and have many, many characters across many accounts that reflect each mood I have perfectly. I also love making characters for a specific situation or dungeon. It would be nice to have them all on one or two accounts.

    Other games like Neverwinter have options to buy more character slots. In Neverwinter you can buy 2 extra character slots for 5 bucks. They are even cheaper when on sale. Neverwinter even has a "change character" feature that allows quick character changes without having to go to a login screen. These are really useful features that UO should adopt.

    An Extra Character slot IS something I'd pay for in UO. I'm willing to pay what a booster costs per character slot. More then likely I'd be buying extra character slots for more then one account if available.

    BTW Popps, big mistake including Siege in this poll... Maybe make a new poll, but without the Siege slot?
     
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  20. MedeaDF

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    No. Because I don't need more gifts spread out on my accounts. And because the question about more storage space on all the house types was ridiculed at the last Developer Hangout, I see it that it is clearly not necessary (and possible) to get more character slots either.

    And no, to be blunt: I for sure will not open more accounts just to have more storage and getting even more (useless) pixel junk.
     
  21. Warpig Inc

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    Handful of soulstones and PSs , bamm another template.

    4 new secluded shards spread through 4 time zones. The purchased 8th slot can only log on theese new shards that correct all the mistakes made from any month in 1999 to today.
     
  22. popps

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    The problem with Soulstones, is that it only helps with skill points.....

    Unfortunately, there is a LOT more in the game than skill points like Recipes learned, Tier Quests learned, Stat points, Loyalty with a bunch of things from Towns to the Gargoyle Queen and so forth, and more.

    Transferring a character may mean losing a valuable one on a shard (akas having to red0 a lot of learning and time consuming things...), not always this may be possible......

    So, while for some an 8th character might be redundant, for others if might be an extremely important thing not to mess up their characters' balance for that shard.
     
  23. popps

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    I realized it afterwards.... I should have included another option in the poll that would add an 8th slot but leaving Siege and Mugen as they are...
     
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  24. Lug

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    Its all good popps. I knew your heart was in the right place when making the poll. Which is why I still voted yes.
     
  25. Lady Storm

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    I love how others tell their counter parts in the game NO way when they clearly have little idea of the reasoning it is being asked for.
    I can see it not being done for Siege and Mugen, it would upset game and there is a prime example as a fluke happened years ago of Siege's character log in page opening up to give you more slots.
    It was an over site in a publish meant to go for only the production shards...
    All hell broke loose..if I remember corectly.
    Those who made other character had to give them up and it made for a bit of bad feelings. But what was worse was the effect the extra characters had.
    As for the need for an extra slot on production shards.. Back in the early days yes I can see only the 5 or 6 slots and the 7th was a nice thing when more types of templates came out... these days just to have 1 of each type you would need more then the 8th slot asked for.
    A person who has 1 account, to have the full offering would need close to 10 slots...


    As for the bit about the hazing about more lockdowns,
    You got ot love how players who live by pvp and jabbering all day have the voice to over ride what those who provide the means for them to do just that.
    With the Armor pots and all the stuff needed to imbue thats alot of added space crafters had to add in, and with the Dev not listening to a word I said about Bod Books becoming 1 lock down/1 stone which would take alot off a house need for lockdowns as the crafter could virtualy hold his whole book collection on him or in his beatle....
    Imagine the storage for those of us who do all the armor, or other things needed for todays game play.
    How many of those new armor inhancements are there?
    Plus they dont stack!
    Granted the majority of mats for it do stack but the shere number of items just an imbuer needs at hand .... not to mention the smith, tailor, and tinker.
    Oh I forgotot add in the other skills who collect the mats or make mats... need I go on?
    It is not just 9 ore/ingot types, 9 wood colors, or the 4 leather types... dont forget to add in the scales... bone wool cloth and dye tubs... tools for it all.
    It dont come out of thin air people.
    Then there is the bod books that if not in chests are sitting on vendors.
    Have you ever tried to hold on a full bod book? I hope you have enough storage to hold all in your pack and I was not joking about stripping you down to hold a full book.
    Just to get 1 bod out!
    Could you imagine if they had gone 1 for 1 in the book....yee gods people what the hell were you thinking!
    It never should have been a 1/4 ratio unless you wanted to force people to grow bigger needs on house space!
    Sorry for the rant on stupidity... it just frosts my buns when the Gods of UO act stupid and do something that will cause trouble down the road.
    Mind you the Old Gods left the New Gods a hell of a mess. I dont envy the present Dev team. they have been fixing past teams muff ups for ages.
    All I ask is for common sense in repairing the wrong's done.
    If you dont want to add more storage then think about the reduction of what eats it up!
    Dont go burrying your heads in sand and think it will go away... or that the ones who are begging for it will stop.
    Unless your angling for them to perma leave the game.
    Thats how fustrated some players are.
     
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  26. Smoot

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    I would Gladly startup on a fresh clean shard. No transfers. Back to basics. Not years and years of built up armor. No imbuing. No massive amounts of gold.
     
  27. Lady Storm

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    But there is the rub Smoot.
    You see yes while there are many here who would restart UO back from the Basic in a heart beat.
    And lets be real without the original plans for the game, your barkingup a dead tree.
    Still, most new and established players would not.
    Some New players are too use to instant noodles kind of games that can be won in an afternoon or 2.
    They want bang bang, shoot em up, kill all you see and leave the game. For fresher pastures.
    Most of these kind of players are good for 6 months max.
    Thats if the Dev dangle a nice looking carrot to do so.
    The rest of the new players would try... some might make it if they meet a good bunch of players in game to hang with.
    Established players for the most parts might say yea I want that too but under the skin if you did it the screaming would start to deaffen the dead.
    Once they die and get dry looted like many in the fighting are aimed to do a few times... one of two things will happen.
    One.. They will scream and cry to the dev and want back what we have now. Like NOW, 10 seconds more and poof! They quit.
    or
    Two.. They will pack up and quit. period. No snivling, no crying, just pure go to the log out button and go. And it will be a cold day in hell before anyone will be able to get them back in the game for any reason.
    I am not saying this to be mean.
    It's the truth we have a bit of trouble looking at... Times and situations have changed from the first years.
    Hell how many here screamed for newer graphics?
    Thats not classic...
    Truth be know... my son might have it right.
    We all see UO with our own perscription of Rose Colored Glasses on.

    Unless shards merge I see no reason to not raise the limit to 10 even.
    Reason is To keep up with the newer content and loath of reconfiguring old favorites to a new template...
     
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    No what is amazing Lady. If an 8th slot was a purchase upgrade and that character is used on a fresh start shard only. Purely optional and still there are sideways complaints on something purely simple choice. Biggest mistake made was having everything gained through a huge easy button. Then not police the scripting BS that makes the easy button push it's self. I would pay extra to play an 8th slot on a fresh shard that has a dedicated GM coverage.

    Fixes on a fresh shard.

    There would still be insured items. Just would not be so damn cheep.
    Loot drops and high end rewards earned would be a surprise worthy of shouting out about on Chat.
    All gear would have negs based off their mod point value in stages. Lower durability > brittle > cursed. Still would be pimp gear. Just wont be around FOREVER.
    Nothing in the game is blessed but vet rewards. Every three years after creation a character would earn a personal bless deed.
    Still would be over GM skill levels but require a gold tithing points system required per skill over GM. Tith points burn away while logged in and once gone skills start to burn down to 100.
    Luck as a mod is gone from the game. Luck buffs on drops is based of how little to none (being cap) mod totals of gear being worn.


    Could go on. But boils down to a shard that would most likely be populated by players that new a time before computers and cell phones. When an honest days work still ment going home broke and tired but one more step closer to a goal is enough.
     
  30. MalagAste

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    @ Warpig..... what you are saying sounds like work. I don't want to be forced to grind and work to maintain a character. NO one does. That's just nuts.

    Secondly we can't get GM's now what makes you think you could get some for a new shard. And ones that don't tell you to have a nice day and enjoy DAoC..... or some silly non-sense.

    Lady Storm summed things up pretty well with just what's needed for crafting. Lets not even talk about fishing. To do the fishing quests you need to have almost a chest FULL of fish.... When you do that quest you wind up with 100's of items you can't stack. Sure you can combine the silly bait but how many of those books do you need? Not to mention if you want to do Pirate hunting while your at it you need 20 things just for ingredients to MAKE the crap you need to hunt the pirates, matches, match cord, the cleaner rod, plunger rod, cannon balls, grapeshot, fuse, match, powder...... and you then wind up getting 100's of bottles of booze..... 30 white dye tubs.... etc not to mention death certificates, flame cannon balls, ice cannon balls, and another dozen or more items....

    Or what if you want to be a T-Hunter..... sure now you have a spiffy place to keep maps..... but don't do them.... Because if you do you wind up with 400 or more skeleton keys which don't stack, 300 tasty treats that don't stack, 250 vines that don't stack, mana phasing orbs don't stack, the shields don't stack, 40 different imbuing ingredients ..... Thank god the rest of the crap in there is worthless.... or you'd have tons of that too... For every map you do you wind up with at least 5 or 6 items that take up space. So if you do those 500 maps you have sitting in that locker you would have over 2k in lockdowns that don't stack. That's with only keeping 4 items out of each chest. If they are the level 6 or above you can tack on the mini-arti as well.

    Now if you are really wanting to talk about burning up lockdowns then try fishing up MIB's. Each one of those you fish up nets you over a dozen items sometimes. With all the "pre" chest crap and then you get the chest and it has a bunch of crap.....


    So I quit doing the T-Hunting and MIB's..... quit fishing.... and all that because I just don't have anywhere for all that crap. Sure I could throw it all away..... but then WTF is the point of doing it if I throw away everything I get????? May as well just not even bother.

    I gave up on BOD's long time ago simply because there isn't room to do them. I stopped picking up T-Maps as my locker is full..... I quit fishing because I don't have room for any more of the junk...


    I hate crafting now as it's too complicated and gives me a headache trying to figure out what I need to put on each piece and then I don't even want to try to figure out how reforging works, and refining is just plain too much......

    So after quitting doing all those things..... there really isn't a whole lot left to do that doesn't add more crap to my homes.... So then I just don't feel like doing anything at all ...... because well what's the point I'm running out of places to put junk..... I don't want to just throw stuff away..... I love deco and design never know if I might need 30 braziers..... Or some of those stacked books, a skinned goat might just come in handy..... But do I need 50+ serving trays that I got for the 16th anniversary????? Probably not...... what about the cake no one can eat? Did you know you have to have an utterly empty backpack to take a piece of stinking cake off...

    Anyway..... I'm told we don't need more storage... Fine.... I don't...... what I need is for crap to stack and combine. And I"m not going to throw away my gift crap if it's only worth a few measly points. May as well just sit where it is for that. Not worth the effort of sorting thru and tossing it otherwise.
     
  31. Winter

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    I think at first that I would gladly have a second slot on Siege. Then after thinking about it, that would really hurt the economy there, where you have whole accounts dedicated to crafting. And it would not bring more players to Siege, just because they can now have 2 slots - more likely, people would cancel second accounts to save the monthly subscription fee.
     
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    @popps - I like how you worded "No ! I do not see this additional slot as particularly useful." It captures exactly how I perceive the addition of an eighth character slot. With seven character slots and soulstones, every aspect of the game can be explored/experienced in depth.

    I am not opposed to the developers adding an eighth slot. However, there are so many other improvements/additions which are a much more needed/requested/desired/"overdue". An eighth slot doesn't even crack the top 100 list.
     
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    Well, as compared to other new content, adding an 8th slot is probably the easiest thing to do for the Company that owns the game. That is, it would require the least resources AND, if sold for money to existing accounts, it would bring home some fresh new revenues which will be able to help adding other new content more important....

    So, as I see it, adding an 8th slot may actually work IN FAVOUR of also adding more new content (or fixing current problems with the game...) when it increases the resources needed for this additional, more important work.....
     
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  34. MalagAste

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    I see the eighth slot as just fine though I would leave Siege as is. I agree with most other Siege players that it would hurt more than it helped. I have 9 accounts of characters over there... and have my own crafter and crafting is a vital part of the economy. It should remain.
     
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    I'm glad we don't have a "dislike" option, because what I'm about to say would probably set a record for down votes. But here goes...

    The reason I would not support the idea of an additional character slot is because I think we've always had too many. Yes. Too many. I honestly believe that one of the reasons Siege is still there (and apparently with a better economic structure than anywhere else) is due to its limitation on character slots. Players have to specialize and make "life choices", so to speak. They have to really like their characters and enjoy what they do, without expecting to (or being expected to) master every possible occupation out there. They also have to interact with others if they wish to thrive. In my opinion there is great psychological value in that. Frankly, if you gave Siege a PvP switch and kept the other restrictions in place, I think the shard would have a real population explosion. Heck, even I might go back there and try again.

    Over and out. :next:
     
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  36. startle

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    We'd love to have ya', old gypsy... And I'll personally take care of whatever you need to get started (if you'll let me sit on your wagon and pet the horse).... :rolleyes:
     
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    *looks for horse... errr... PvP switch* :D
     
  38. Spiritless

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    The 1 character limitation on Siege stopped being a meaningful limitation years ago, if it ever was in the first place.
     
  39. popps

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    It would be interesting to know how many of the active Siege or Mugen players have more than 1 account...
     
  40. FrejaSP

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    I have 6 accounts but I still believe we should have a second slot as not all can afford several accounts and no, I would not close any accounts as I have 2 guild houses for NEW2, 2 for TDO and castles for my use
     
  41. Spiritless

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    Either through multiple accounts or a large number of soulstone/fragments in the latter years, people have access to a multitute of "characters" which they can switch out at will. All the 1 character per account limitation does is act as a barrier to people who'd rather not pay EA ~$84+/mo from playing the Siege/Mugen shards, tbh.

    Anyway leaving that issue aside, I don't see why we can't get a rounded figure like 10 character slots available per shard, with the extra slots being purchasable as one-time upgrades.
     
  42. RueTor

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    Since these type of threads are more or less just killing time....

    Give me an 8th Character slot, but make the slot a monster slot that can raid in tram cites (with no ability to loot). No gear... just preset monster settings. Limit the number of monsters that can enter into a city guard zone at one time the rest cannot penetrate the guard zone. The ones that enter, can't flee out of the guard zone. Naturally the monster skills and power will not match normal player skills, but a few organized Orc or Rat mages could create quite the mini battle for towns to rally around. If killed by a player controlled monster in Tram, you resurrect with all your items (like sacrifice) and no loss of insurance. I can see the Luna fun now... on both sides. (ok... back to sleep)
     
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    All my accounts have chars on Siege except 2.
    I own only 3 houses...
    I didnt go gung ho on adding more, I think my 3 are plenty for now.
    No they are not big ones ether, tower, swiss villa and mini tower... not much in way of lockdowns but we manage just fine.

    I have my reasons too for saying ok to up to 10...
    Formost is I have my characters set for their work, as many of you do.
    It's hell as it is to figure out how to change who has what to cover skills tht have to be dropped or moved off to make way to take on new skills for every new template that hits the fan around here.
    Yes I have accounts up the kazoo but think about it... changing accounts and having the family remembering who does what is a nightmare without the spredsheet! I like order and set up my crafters accordingly. 1 account holds the main sneekies, with 2 others backup them so its a bit more fun for us to swoop in and pick nav's web for tangles.
    Unlike most my son got me into having a gargoyle for imbuing..... other wise the flapping would drive me nutz.
    Sampires... oi then the mystics...
    Do you realize how many new temples there are?
    If I want to even have a chance at EM events ... im told I need a whole new character!!!

    I have been here when 5 was the limit and it was ok was no big deal.
    Each publish needing a new setup......
    10 - 10 seems fair unless the whole place is falling apart and shards fall off the map. Only then I want an open list so I cam move my people home out of the tornado that gobbles up the shard to be poofed.
    Look Ea holds the purse strings but Broadsword and the Dev pull the strings that are players.
     
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    Was my first post and have never had any points of view on UO. Like how you noticed all the FORCED words I put between all the lines. Pay for the upgrade or not as an option and not gun to the head. Just a thought on how an 8th slot could come about without getting in the way. There is no need for another character to our current squads. If there is no grinding then it is a step above a soup line hand out.

    Fishings biggest pain. The running quest where the same crab or lobster is required 90% of the time for about 20 quest running. Right now I need to drop my quest level quiting quest or come up with 73 Fred Lobster. Having hundreds of some catches and few to none of others is not really random. Trapping is so much fun it begs honest players to look up scripting. Farming lizardmen for spine leather is far more entertaining grind then trapping. I use trapping if I need help going to sleep early. The crab cakes not stacking compounded with the cost of mats to cook up the pies. Don't sell well on vendors when players think pies should be potion priced. True the books should be better turn in points then a mined blackrock.

    For holiday gifts. Only thing I toss in characters bankbox are holiday gifts and few piles of gold for insurance. Lately been tossing out holiday gifts. One holiday gift per account in the future will be enough. Holiday rares would be just that and not some multi accounts with full character count on all shards greed fest log in party.

    As far as the code mages work. We don't FORCE them to do anything. Even great ideals that a majority agrees to. My #1 request is still spawning dull copper eli with pick axe and all dull copper eli having 25 ore.
     
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  45. Troop

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    Most of us have multiple accounts.
     
  46. Aran

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    I'd love an 8th/2nd slot.
     
  47. Thrakkar

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    People always want more. If they would give you the eighth slot, you would start asking for a ninth, when your "8th Character is kinda tailored up for the Shard you play more frequently".
     
  48. Aran

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    I'd like a ninth, too.
     
  49. Aran

    Aran INFRACTION INFRACTION INFRACTION!
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    Also I'm vaguely active on Siege and have three active accounts. I would still have three active accounts if I got a second character slot per.
     
  50. TandaBSK

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    I voted no, while I'd love the extra storage that would provide, 8 characters with a 60% upgraded storage on 2 accounts with my castle, woot! It isn't practical financially for the game. Also, another character slot means less having to pick what skills you want and can fit into your account, the more independence each player has meaning you can have all templates within your own stable.. the less we have to interact with each other and face it the sandbox is pretty boring by yourself someone needs to bring the toy cars, extra shovels and castle molds. hehe

    Personally I think the year we got the advanced character tokens, etc was much more useful. Getting 1 character "out of the box" more or less that can at least get you started means you can be a little more adventurous in exploring and learning the game, actually getting to play. Now the downside to that for me was I used it to build a tamer... ha! It meant/means I never use her for that as I have no flipping clue other than the basics of "go kill" and heal your pet. All of her pets were gifts, and all these years later taming is still only at 90. So in hindsight perhaps the struggle is necessary to learn to be at one with your template, understand the strategy involved and appreciate the successes. Perhaps a larger starting tweak you create your character and get a starter set: full spell book, more than 1k gold, and a virtue armor set that works warrior or mage, weapon fitting the melee skill, for 1 character per account. Maybe not the flashiest, highest end stuff you can obtain but enough to allow you to experience some relatively easy successes and fund your next build.