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Wrong person Banned! what to do?

Discussion in 'UHall' started by Kiss Of Death, Apr 24, 2009.

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  1. Kiss Of Death

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    Hello, a friend of mine just got banned at luna bank when AFk on a naked char called Slayer of noobs , he was afk not performing any actions, it's a 24 hours ban, but it's a clearly mistake of the GM. ATLANTIC was the shard, it happened right now.

    What to do?
     
  2. Wait 24 hours and learn a lesson :)
    Golden Rule: Log out if you cannot be there to respond to GMs.

    It is kinda lame to get a suspension IF he wasnt unattended macroing though. There is probably more to this story....
     
  3. NewThunder

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    tell him when, he gets back in game in 24 hours, to not go AFK, why not simply log out.
     
  4. Kiss Of Death

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    have you ever heard the term:

    " BANK SITTER"

    it's something done in uo since 1997 , bank sitting at britain bank and now it's been done at luna bank too. the Gm mistook person and banned a guy bank sitting.
     
  5. Tazar

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    AFK sitting to burn off murder counts or any other reason is against the rules since it requires a continuing, repeating "action" to stay logged in. This "action" could be as simple as "show names of approaching players".

    Live and learn.
     
  6. Vexxed

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    Scrips these days are smart enough to recognize a GM and log your character off... Thus once a GM shows up you better be ther to answer because they have no way of knowing if you were macroing 1 second earlier and simply stopped when they showed up. This pretty much means that logging off if your not going to be there is a good idea. Why would you want to be logged in anyway if your not benefitting in some way?
     
  7. Lyconis

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    You can stay logged in if players are on your screen. You don't need to perform any actions. You shouldn't have to log out because you run to the bathroom, answer your door, answer your phone or your internet connection drops while your at luna bank.
    Sounds odd that you'd get banned for being afk, is there something missing from the story? If your speaking the truth and there were no loop programs I'd try to get ahold of chrissay and figure out what you need to do to contest the banning. Sounds like you'll have 24 hours to figure it out. Good luck.
     
  8. Beer_Cayse

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    AFK = trouble for character/player/account. That's been known for a very long time. Never AFK. Period.
     
  9. The character does not have to be macroing or doing anything else against the rules: Being AFK itself is grounds for a penalty. When paged on an AFK player the GM will generally try 2-3 times to get the character to respond either by appearing in front of him and speaking or sending him /tell's. Then he'll either send the character to a locked room in Buc's Den with a nasty note on the wall and a teleporter or insta-log him with a suspension if the account has been flagged before.

    Edit: Oh, and there's no RULE that when a GM asks if you're there that you have to answer him. There's no rule about that at all. However there's no rule about standing on railroad tracks daring the train to hit you, either. Both acts are part of what's called, "Evolutionary Law".

    At a guess I'd say "Slayer of noobs" is not one of Brittania's most upright citizens and has previous marks on his record if he got slapped with a suspension. Next time he has to take a potty break, take out the trash, etc., he should plan ahead and either log out or move somewhere private and safe first so he's less likely be surprised again. It probably won't get him banned if it doesn't happen too often (1-2 times a year).
     
  10. Divster

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    If it really was the case that he really was just standng there doing nothing, then this is ridiculous beyond belief. The gm's should be reacting to things that actually frigging matter not something like this. This will end up with people flooding the gm's with pages on people they don;t like they spot simply bank sitting. Good grief
     
  11. jaraxlebaenrae

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    Interesting, i have been paging on script miners for several weeks now and they are still hard at it, although I have never seen anyone banned for simply being afk at luna bank, prob more to this story.......
     
  12. Tina Small

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    The Rules of Service say this in Rule 6: "You may not leave an active character or pet in game while unattended. If your character is performing a skill, text or action, you must be able to respond to a Game Master when one attempts to speak to you." (http://support.ea.com/cgi-bin/ea.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=347.)

    What may not be entirely clear is and is most likely subject to interpretation by a GM is what is an "active character or pet." Perhaps the following Q&A from the Knowledgebase on the official UO site is a bit clearer: http://support.ea.com/cgi-bin/ea.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=38. Note the last sentence that says, "Remember, you have to be doing something, such as a skill, chat, or action to be in violation of our unattended macroing policy."
     
  13. Kellgory

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    If their going to start banning people for bank and gate sitting, there is going to be a lot of people banned. Your friend should be getting an email that lists the violation (Unattended Macroing), shard, and char name.

    Based off of some screenshots people have posted on these forums in the past it will give a short lecture on what rule that was broken.

    Rules of Conduct: 6) You may not leave an active char or pet in game while unattended. If your char is performing a skill, text or action, you must be able to respond to a GM when one attempts to speak to you.

    UO unattended macroing policy is designed to prevent players from setting up their chars to repeat a series of actions for any length of time without having to actually be at the computer to even play the game

    Yada yada yada....Please know that you are taking a risk if you macro while at the computer. Should you be called away from the machine for any reason - even due to an emergency - your account will still be suspended if a GM arrives and you cannot make contact with them.

    For further browbeating go to this website that no longer works....if you want to dispute the charges go to http://suport.ea/com they are always in need of a good laugh. Insert Nelson Muntz picture going Ha Ha.
     
  14. Viper09

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    I believe there is more to this story than the OP is aware of or just simply leaving out of this thread here.

    GMs rarely respond to pages on macroing players. So I highly doubt they would show up and just make an unjustified suspension.

    I'm guessing this guy deserved what he got. I don't think he just logged out in public I think he was purposefully afk burning counts or maybe doing a skill.
     
  15. WootSauce

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    Perhaps it just took a few minutes for the GM's to catch up with him, since i witnessed him call one of the EM's a "pr*k" and badmouth them about an hour or so ago at a certain gathering?

    Just a thought.
     
  16. Bomb Bloke

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    Out of interest, can you use GM chat while house customising?

    I mean, sure, you can't be paged on in that state (you're invisible), so it's not an issue. Just curious.

    (Incedently, humans have a minimum 20% chance to hide successfully).
     
  17. Whinemaker

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    Did he receive an email stating why he was banned?

    My first instinct is that the char's name might have offended someone; I dunno.
     
  18. Dermott of LS

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    If you are not around to control or care for your character, then it's your fault if something otherwise preventable happens to that character... it's that simple.

    AFK = risk of being messed with, go AFK at your own risk.
     
  19. zared of napa

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    Umm no just sitting at a busy bank(luna) will keep the character logged in .
     
  20. Lord Gareth

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    Easiest way to figure out if it is true is to do this.

    Find the rich Bank Sitter and when he goes AFK page on him. Then if they get banned go to all shards find peoples houses that are rich and page on them when they bank sit then wait for their house to go BOOM and get all their hard earned items

    hehehe

    I like this idea.
     
  21. FrejaSP

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    That name it self should get him banned in my opinion :p
    "noobs" do not fit as a part of a player name in a RP game
     
  22. Tazar

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    Yes it will... If you have the option set to "show names of approaching players". This is considered an action by the GM's.
     
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    It doesn't take a script to stay logged in at Luna. It seems that if there are players constantly moving on and off your screen, this will keep you logged into the game. I once forgot to logout at my house by Britain Moongate. I came back a couple of hours later surprised to find myself still logged in. Thus my theory since Brit moongate is still quite a well traveled one on Pacific.
     
  24. Kellgory

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    Maybe they will let us know if banksitting is considered AFK Macroing in one of the FOF's. They have mentioned that they are considering doing a one time per char murder count wipe so maybe they don't want people burning counts and wasting bandwidth.
     
  25. christy1221

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    I don't have that checked and I stay logged in at luna bank. Since my laptop is right beside my chair I will leave my character logged on while I am getting my baby to sleep and I don't have to move my character or do any other action if I am at luna bank. I just keep looking at them just in case someone talks to me.
     
  26. Farscape

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    Correct!and we will never know
     
  27. Farscape

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    Correct!and we will never know
     
  28. Speaking the Truth

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    No, I am. That's Kiss of Death.
     
  29. christy1221

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    :lol::lol:
     
  30. Nh'bdy

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    Actually, if this was that broad at the rares fest who was yelling for Tomas Bryce to show himself so she could see her ecru necklace, or something along those lines, in a Europa gold robe, then, and of course this is from the best of my memory, they said something along these lines.

    "Tomas you F***ing pr**k, show yourself"

    And the EM popped up and said "Excuse me?"

    It was at this time that a dear comrade of mine got holy and reported, of course, this is if this was the same person.

    What is the player base coming too these days?
     
  31. Kiss Of Death

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    being afk it's not illegal if u don't perform any other actions guys, simple facts. you're misunderstanding the situation, no email has been received.

    The gm clearly banned the wrong person at luna bank...even if for 24 hours. this friend of mine didn't receive the email with the reason ie the gm banned wrong account.

    You can't be banned for bank sitting, bank sitting is a way to be, like Pking in felucca. It has been done since 1997, let's not say nub things pls.
     
  32. Mistura

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    You can sit AFK at the bank all you want. Its not against the ToS in any way because your not performing any actions.

    And no, having show the names of incoming players show up is most certainly not regarded as an action by GMs, its an option you can select in your options menu, that is all.

    This topic has been touched on before plenty of times, I can't believe there are some people that think being afk is illegal...lol

    I'll continue to leave my character on screen at luna bank, or at my shop to keep a note of how many customers I get.
     
  33. Nh'bdy

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    Assumption and generalization are the ******* children of injustice, fathered by the ever promiscuous hypocrisy.

    Clearly is a very strong word.
     
  34. Petra Fyde

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    There appear to be grounds to at least consider the possibility that this person was not, in fact, banned for being afk at the bank, but for conduct that happened earlier. Being afk at the bank just happened to be what he was doing when action was taken.

    I think there is no further need to discuss this here. If the player concerned has not, as has been claimed. received a communication from EA detailing the offence he should email customer service.

    Stratics posters can not help you further.
     
  35. Kaleb

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    Ur high, Devs stated number's of times going back to the real UO fourms that you can be afk as long as you wish, as long as your not preforming any actions or skills. A person will not or should not get banned for simply being AFK. Show names is not an action, its a menu option, here is your sign.:gee:
     
  36. HillBilly

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    LMAO.
    Isnt that the same toon that was disrupting the Atlantic EM events by running around spamming spells? Im quite sure I saw them on at least 2 occasions being an a$$.

    They got what they deserved even if it was a few weeks late. :)
     
  37. UOKaiser

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    Not speaking about the guy who got banned no one really knows the reason but... LOL.Everybody knows it's not illegal to be afk. Did everyone else just joined UO this month or something? Makes me wonder if 70% of people who post on this board actualy play UO or even played in the last year. We gonna have to bring ya to the players corner for a while :)
     
  38. Divster

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    I think there is confusion within this thread between show approaching names which is an option in the options in uo and show all names which can be assigned to a macro (helps see ure body under lots of stuff) show all names will prevent you from logging out if ure alone and its use would be considered an action if macrod and unattended. Show apporaching names is not
     
  39. Zuckuss

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    Wrong.

    Having the "Show names of approaching players" option on in UO or UO Assist is most certainly regarded as an action by the GM's. It is a macro designed to automatically perform the "action" of showing the name of a player who approaches the screen. This has been confirmed.

    But it is still lame if he was banned for no reason, which there usually is in these cases.
     
  40. Viper09

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    This sounds like a post you add in before you lock a thread...
    Did you change your mind? :p
     
  41. Arcus

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    No, you are wrong. "All Names" is an assignable action. All my thieves had it hotkeyed to Z and instantly shows the names of all payers on the screen

    "Show names of approaching players" is an option that is NOT an action. It shows the name of someone walking ito your visible field for n number of seconds.

    Two totally different things.
     
  42. Bomb Bloke

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    Yeah, it's not an action that you, the player, perform... But does it make your client perform an action?

    Remember the GM can't see whether or not you're pushing a macro button or not. If having that thing enabled makes your client act as though someone's (or something's) pushing a button, well... you can probably see my point by now.
     
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    You always get an email. The problem is sometimes it can take a couple days. Your suspension can expire before you get it.

    If he doesn't get one, tell him to email GM Reviews and tell them he never got an email.
     
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  45. Sweeney

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    This thread is ridiculous. Half the people are saying 'going AFK is a valid reason to get banned.'
     
  46. Dermott of LS

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    If you go AFK, it's your own fault if you get banned, killed, stolen from, made fun of, monster trained, spraypainted, ok, the next one would have gone too far, but you get the idea.

    If you WERE there instead of AFK, you could prevent any of any number of unfortunate events that may occur to your character.

    Again you go AFK at your own risk.
     
  47. Sweeney

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    Killed, stolen from, etc are fine.. but I would love to see a statement from EA saying that taking a **** while your character is logged in can get you banned.

    Some people blindly defend the crown no matter what, leaping to conclusions based on something that happened for reasons you will never know. That mentality leads to crazy superstition, like sacrificing humans during an eclipse leads to a fruitful growing season.

    As some have said there was most likely other reasons behind the action the OP spoke of.. but it is unnerving that many of you would support banning based on no macroing, no scripting.. just getting a drink or going to the loo or answering the phone or taking care of your crying baby.
     
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    Think about it. If you're off answering the phone, then you'll be back LONG before a GM could answer a page about the matter.

    The chances of getting banned while on the toilet are remote (unless someone slipped something into your drink).
     
  49. Pffft.
    Read second post.
    Thread shoulda been closed after I answered.



    :danceb:
     
  50. Kaleb

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    Hahhaha your a mod and know nothing about what devs have posted here in the past lolz to you.

    [​IMG]
     
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