Ok, I'm gonna need more of this forum's help to shepard me through the wilds of the Factions. So, I read that you need to steal the sigil from a town that reads green on your faction stone.... with 80 Stealing. Ok, says I, let's do it. I go on over to Vesper, and after searching around, I found two nifty looking tombstone dealies. One is rose-colored and proclaimed to be the town stone. The next was a black obelisk saying it was the town sigil. So I jewel up (my thief has 60.5 stealing, but using the goodies I get him up to 80.5) and go put my hand in the cookie jar... ie I tried stealing on the sigil obelisk. "You can't steal that." WTF? Do you have to have a natural 80? I am sure the town was up for grabs.... please advise so I can ruin the TB's day.