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Yesterday the Zealots gave me:-

Discussion in 'UHall' started by Petra Fyde, Nov 23, 2012.

  1. Petra Fyde

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    1 taint
    2 lard of paroxysmus
    2 corruption
    2 luminescent fungi

    well, not gave exactly, I just 'borrowed' them kender-style from their pockets.
     
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    Which type of zealot? Ophidian Zealot? Zealot of Khaldun Summoner?
     
  3. Petra Fyde

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    Exodus zealots :) These are 'filler' items when you don't get keys.
    Full loot table - when stolen from, not when killed, appears to be
    gold - always
    gems - sometimes
    ML ingredients - rarely
    Exodus keys - very rarely
     
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    So far i for all ML Reagents from them. (Blight,Corruption,Musculent,Putrefaction,Scourge,Taint,Captured Essence,Diseased Bark,Dread Horn Mane,Eye of Travesty,Grizzled Bones,Lard of Paroxysmus)

    And 2 Pristine Dread Horn Heads.


    I like it! I never was able to get my hands on some of these items before. :D
     
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    ...
    Suddenly I feel the need to train my thief. :p
     
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    And a partridge in a pear tree! ;)

    Seriously though its good to have something new to do on the thief.
     
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    wonder if you can get a crim?
     
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    Only time will tell when the zealots reveal all their secrets to us! ;)
     
  9. Kylie Kinslayer

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    Hmmmm..

    Any of you been able to successfully snag 2 ingreds from one Zealot? Or do ya have to kill them off after a nice pick?
     
  10. Petra Fyde

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    killing them won't help. This loot is only from stealing. I got a stack of 2 lard of paroxy in one steal.

    I believe they re-set. I didn't kill any, but I was able to steal from different ones in the same room later.
     
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    Txs for reminding me to play this funny thingy and dust my thieve off Petra ;)
    I did this for 25 Mins as i write this, and thats what i got:

    3 (!!) Exodus Summoning Altar
    2 Muculent
    1 Taint
    1 Pristine Dread Horn
    2436 gold

    Skills:
    Detect Hidden: 0
    Hiding 100
    Lockpicking 100
    Magery 105
    Resist 66.9
    Snooping 97.6 (87.6 real)
    Stealing 120 (94.3 real)
    Stealth 120 (97.5)

    I even gained a stealing 0,1 and a stealth 0,1 yet hehe

    Cool stuff - but dont DIE - i couldnt find a rez point anywere, no other player there to rez me, so either run back to the gypsy camp or have a second account ready for rez LOL

    bagpack.JPG
     
  13. Petra Fyde

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    Do Silver Sapling seeds only work down in the Stygian Abyss Dungeon ?

    If so, aside from a friend or secondary account only the Sacrifice Virtue might come handy.....

    I am surprised that there is no res spot in the Exodus Dungeon though....
     
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    never has been a res spot in there, or any other Ilsh dungeon as far as I know. There's an ankh in the city when you're actually doing Exodus, but ressurection in Ilsh has always been a case of running, and knowing where to run. I guess a salvation gem would be handy too.

    Silver sapling seeds only in the abyss and underworld as far as I know.
     
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    hehe Nonel, maybe on Siege...or 10 years ago, yes!
    ;)
     
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    Yeah i had the same problem. I now run a second account down there on a steather to res me.
     
  19. Petra Fyde

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    I run to the gargoyle shrine - unless I'm really lucky and someone rezes me as I'm on my way out.
     
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    Are zealots the only thing you can steal from down there or all of them?
     
  21. Petra Fyde

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    you can steal from the hidden boxes, if you can find them.

    The warrior path = kill the drones, sentinels and juggernauts
    the rogue path = steal from zealots or boxes
    the crafter path = make the keys.

    more details here:
    UO Stratics *New* | The Summoning of Exodus
     
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    anyone know how high your detect hidden skill must be to get a clu where the chests are...i guess my now 35 wont do it hehe
     
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    OK I clicked this link earlier and didn't see much that helped me before I asked what could be stolen from. After clicking the link again I noticed my scroll bar was quite long for such a short amount of information. So I scrolled allllllllllllllllllllllllll the way down to the bottom of that page for the rest of the info! Can this be fixed maybe or am I the only person seeing the page this way?
     
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    hmm, you're not seeing the images? there are screenies of the arch zealot's menu on the page
     
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    I am also curious about this. I have 28.9 now (for some reason couldn't buy it higher then 28.5) :(. Anyways, I get the message that my keen senses feel something hidden in the area or whatever it says. But have not actually found anything yet.
     
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    you're doing 'detect hidden' in the area when you get that message?
     
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    I see a few menu pics, then I can read this: The ritual requires the use of four keys, the robe[​IMG] the dagger, [​IMG] the rite, [​IMG] the altar[​IMG]. Then I see a HUGE amount of blank brown screen until I scroll down quite some distance and then the menu pics start back up.
     
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    Yep, all over. Figured it was just my low skill.

    btw, I see the pics and everything good on your link. Thanks for the work put into it.
     
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    I don't see a big gap :( I've checked on Firefox, Chrome and IE.

    Thanks Lady Bleez :)

    Yes, I think you'll need a little bit more skill.
     
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    i am going to try now with 49.5 :)
     
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    I have 100 detect hidden and sometimes finding the boxes can still be a pain. You can definately fail to reveal them even if you click in the general vicinity of where it *eventually* gets revealed, on average expect to need to detect 4-5 times. If you noticed the message and are still failing to find the box I found it was helpful to move out of the area and approach from different angles and the new messages will give you a better estimation of the location.

    Overall I find the rogue path pretty satisfying, RNG with key parts (and stealing) can always bite ya in the butt, however I still appreciate the "thief" attention.
     
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    since i wrote i try it now, i still looking for the message pop up....did not locate a box yet at 49.5 detect...do i need any other skill?
    i mean other than hiding, stealth, stealing lockpicking and detect hidden to get the message a box is near? strange....
     
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    Ughhhh, how does one "open" a discovered box once detected? :(
     
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    Lockpicking? GM i guess....
     
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    Only need detect hidden to find the boxes from what I can discern, when you finally reveal them you need lockpicking. I have gm lockpicking as well and the boxes can be quite rude!, sometimes breaking picks fairly often. After being picked there are always 2 traps, one deadly poison, and one very minor dart trap (4 points on 70 phys), then its all free to loot.
     
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    Yesterday the Zealots gave me:-

    Gas, my guess was gas. Maybe I was thinking of Turkeys.




    P.S. whatever Stratics pays Cloudfront its too much considering how often your site is unavailable and the page that shows up says something to the effect of "They use us so we can show their pages when they are offline, but we don't actually have them to show you."
     
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    Quick addition to Petra's comment: After stealing from Zealots (which you can only do once - you get a message otherwise) they tend to disappear after 20-30 seconds. I tried stealing from them, then killing them for a further chance at loot and was suprised how fast they disappeared. *Granted my thief is not really combat handy, but the Zealots dont have much health so it might be possible to kill them after a steal for a further chance at a key.*
     
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    Due to some issues with a bad sector on my primary HDD, I haven't had the chance to get in and test this out yet for myself. Anyone know if the Smugglers Edge is usable here as it is with with most other 'monster' theft? My thief is currently set for factioning ( steal hide stealth detect track mage eval) so will I need to pull remove trap and Lockpick off the soul stones to do the chests?
     
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    I believe smugglers edge will not work, though I haven't actually tried it
     
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    Smugglers Edge don't work, i tried it.
     
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    Some good points were covered in this thread, here is a quick summary for anyone interested:

    Zealots
    • Can be stolen from once (if successful) to obtain a variety of items: Gold often, Gems sometimes, ML ingrediants are rare, Exodus keys are very rare.
    • After being stolen from the Zealots tend to disappear (reset/vanish if you prefer). The time can vary, but is consistant enough to test if you wish.
    • The Smugglers Edge doesn't work.
    Hidden Supply Cache
    • While exploring the dungeon you will sometimes see the message: Your keen sense detect something hidden in the area...
    • You need detect hidden to reveal the supply caches. The exact skill value needed has not been pin pointed, but it is very common to fail at 100 skill level.
    Helpful tips for those searching for hidden supply caches: If you noticed the message and are still failing to find the box I found it was helpful to move out of the area and approach from different directions and when the new message appears it will give you a better estimation of the cache's location. *Be sure to also have a key to activate Circle of Transparency as sometimes the caches are hidden in very difficult to see areas.*
    • After being revealed you need lockpicking to open the supply cache. The exact skill value needed has not been pin pointed, but expect to break a few picks at 100 skill level.
    • After being opened the cache will be trapped, there is various methods to deal with the traps, but the traps themselves are always the same: High level poison followed by a weak dart trap.
    • Inside the cache you will find: Always 1500-2500+ gold and a random amount of standard gems of all kinds (except amber). The items that vary are: Invisibility potions, Parasitic poison potions, smokebombs, a random amount of one kind of Stygian Abyss essence, an exodus key part.
    Aside from that please be careful the Exodus mechanical npcs can reveal sometimes (rare).

    Big thank you to Petra and Frarc for all the early information. Thanks to all the other great posters working on discovering the information for this experience, hopefully this is useful to someone who needs it.
     
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    How do you steal from them? Do you use Snoop first - or just clcik Steal icon and target the zealot?
     
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    just use stealing and target
     
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    In EC i have stealing icon set to target current. I target my Zealot,sneak up to him, steal and then run away and keep pressing hiding. :)
     
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    hmmm...i still need to find a chest...spent like 5 hours yer stealthing around stealing from zealots but never got a chest message...and i am at 51 dh now...am i just unlucky?
     
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    not sure. I only used gm on test, and my Europa thief only has stealing and snooping upto yet. Working on lp and detect.
     
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    I would say yes, just unlucky. I was getting the message at under 30 detect hidden. I just couldn't reveal them. :(
     
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    I have currently 70.3 detect, 75.3 lockpick, I'm finding chests, with a ball of knowledge I get a difficulty message when I try to detect one near me and I'm gaining lockpick when I open them. I don't think I'm finding all of them. I suspect they come in different levels.
    devil99 Are you looking for the message in the right place? It's a system message, not one over your head.
     
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    I seem to fail every time I have tried remove trap on these newly uncovered Decorative Boxes.
    Has the Remove Trap skill worked for anyone?
    My Dex is not 100, and I'm wondering if that is the cause or if remove trap just will not work on these.
     
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    Sorry, didn't try remove trap. I just backed off a bit and shook them :D