105 tame.....120 (15 brace 23 di 14 hci) 110 lore......120 (10/10 lore/vet ring stables) 110 vet.......120 (10/10 lore/vet ring stables) 120 fencing.120 100 tact.....100 66 chiv.......96 (15 jewelry set for resing ) 19 mage.....74 (crystalline ring 15 mage ring 15 book 5 tali invisi scroll) 0 necro.......40 (20 midnight 5 bloodwood 15 bracelet 19 di 13 hci wrath curse weapon) 90 ss..........100 (10 bloodwood) 125/10/120 str/int/dex elf suited 120/40/140 hp/mana/stm 70/70/68/62/75 M&S jackals collar (with more b-kits maybe a storm grip) alternatively 105 tame 110 lore 110 vet 120 fence 100 tact 60 necro (100 vamp) 66 chive 19 magery 30 focus with the same suit and options as above. Ive been running in vamp form for healing . The next pub wipes me out. Now im thinking of going wrath and cursing my weapon only on an as needed basis. Since my pets typically tank i think i can pull off the karma. The magery is for when I enter a paragon room like the blood dungeons balron I will need to pre cast invisi off a scroll walk in and cast to avoid the insta targeting. I then unequipped the mage items and reequip with a macro(uoassist). Pots are untimely and cumbersome. MY main concern is when I am fighting an AoE caster (Lich lord) or a good runner(a greater dragon) I get hit. If im a wrath I can steal mana enough so the runners dont have mana to cast heal and the AoE casters cant switch targets(no mana for wither) In vamp form I dont need to worry about leeching as thats always happening and with a runner i can chiv up with a slayer and leech just enough to get by/ AoE caster typically eat me. About 50/50 I can leech through it. Which is better?? Any suggestions?