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Best mob for item loot? continued...

Discussion in 'UHall' started by Leira of Asrai, Jul 12, 2009.

  1. Leira of Asrai

    Stratics Veteran Stratics Legend

    Jun 6, 2005
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    So the majority of players will agree that character luck affects loot drops. Whether this is based on actual playing experience or by confirmation from the Devs. To quote Draconi:

    At lower levels even a couple hundred luck makes a huge difference; 13% at 100 luck and 24% at 300. At higher levels however, the increase slows dramatically to only about 1% additional chance for every 50 luck.

    You have about a 50% chance to make a luck roll with 1150 luck. So when putting together a suit, it's best to try for the even hundreds and not spend all that money on a jewelry set that only raises your luck by another 20-30 points.

    But what kind of results can you expect? Again quoting Draconi:
    So it's best to find mobs that have a high number of item drop potential. What mobs drop the most items? It may be safe to say that higher famed monsters have a larger item drop potential. However, I find that Daemons only drop a couple items and Blood ele's drop 3-4. Are there any mobs that drop more?

    So a 2 property item has a chance to increase to a 3 property item, based on your luck %.

    So character luck does have an affect on monster loot, albeit a subtle influence. A low fame monster may only have potential of dropping 1 item. If you make the luck roll you will get 2 items. Fighting high fame monsters, which already have potential of dropping good loot will be your best targets because you have a greater chance of finding a bumped item.

    The luck influence is minor, which is why many players might not see a difference. If you farm a monster and compare loot from 50-100 kills at different luck levels you will see a difference in a couple of items.

    The thing to keep in mind is that having massive luck will not yeild artifact quality loot on every kill. But with patience, the items you loot with high luck, combined with precision adjustments through imbuing and finally current material bonus enhancing can result in some pretty nice stuff.

    So what kind of monsters have you found to drop the most number of items and with the highest range of intensities? (based on 0 luck)
  2. Yes, luck does work. And you make some good observations in your post. However, the part quoted above is incorrect according to Draconi (and it seems it is the reason he says it is "broken").

    If the Low Fame monster has a potential of dropping only one item in its loot table, and you kill it and its loot roll gives you one item and then you win the luck roll, you will still only get one item because of the cap.

    Quoting Draconi:
    The same thing happens with intensities he says. There is a cap, and if you get the max intensity and then you win the luck roll, you will get nothing extra for winning the luck roll -- because of the cap.

    This is why high fame monsters give you the real benefits from luck -- because their cap is much higher. Their potential range is higher, so luck rolls that you win will almost always result in extra items/intensities.

    That is why it has been stated many times that the best way to "fix" luck is to change the loot tables. Or make it so luck CAN add items/intensities beyond the cap.
  3. Leira of Asrai

    Stratics Veteran Stratics Legend

    Jun 6, 2005
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    You are correct about the cap. The answer then is to fight the monsters that drop the most items with the largest range of intensities.

    So which monsters are they? I know Blood ele's, Swood and Miasma are good. Does anybody have any other suggestions?
  4. You are right on.
    All the ML named monsters (like Swoop you said), the Doom mini-bosses and DarkFather, the Champ Spawn champions, the Peerless of course.

    IMHO below those listed above are Blood Eles, White Wyrms, Greater Dragons, Balrons, Succubi, Rotting Corpses, Ancient Wyrms.

    Anyone else?
  5. Cloak&Dagger

    Cloak&Dagger Guest

    You guys seem to have it pretty much covered, Maybe Ancient Liches?
  6. ZidjiN

    ZidjiN Babbling Loonie
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    May 18, 2006
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    All my good loot comes from Onis and Yamadons. Balrons aint bad either.

    my 2 cents
  7. Wilde1

    Wilde1 Guest

    gotten some nice jewelry from rune beetles with my luck toon
  8. wrekognize

    wrekognize Guest

    Shadow Wyrms