Do these spawn when your mining with a regular pick axe? or Do you have to be using a Gargoyle pick axe? If they spawn without the use of a Gargoyle pick axe, that is something that needs changed. I am not going to train Mining twice, once (which took me 2.5 years) is enough. Blacksmith requires mining, and arms lore, mining requires tinkering (or lots of trips to town for picks and shovels). Thats 4 required skills for a smith, which doesn't leave room for any kind of adequate defense against BREs. So basically, if BREs spawn at any time, with any pic or shovel, then I guess I will pretty much be forced to buy ingots from scripters, since the reward (given the crazy spawn system now) is not worth the risk of BRE attack for someone who only mines on the rare occasion I need ingots.