I know it is a long arse walk, but others have found it that either do not gate at all, and walked all the way out there, or walked it til they got up there TO mark ... or found runes I have dropped at moongates and banks... but I really do NOT need nor use these GEMS......BUY EM they annoy me and take up stacked item slots in my house. Ecru Citrines no use for em, oft sell for 50k a pop mine are 25k a pop, other gems 5k a pop, mine are 4k a pop, few even less. I mined up 3 more of them dorky ecru citrines first hit on the ore the other day. I know it is a long walk, just bring ye lil bos, stealth on up and out there and BUY EM, but if the only critter out there, kills you ie the skittering hoppers, there is an ankh of sacrafice conveniently located ON the patio by the goza mat vendor. It is public open to all at Miranda's home way up there. See shops sticky thread for picts of shop/s. The ecrus at at Miranda's house, on the ingot vendor. Hep me get rid of them ecru citrines at least, sold in pairs on the ingot vendor. Surely someone can use ecru citrines even if only a few to add to the heap you will trash thru tryin to make them fancy arse rings. Thank ye kindly for ye patronage all those whom have made it up there buyin benches and ingots. OH restocked FULL spell books, and gates, and potions sold next door at my Hughes home !!