Corny title. I know. But here's the deal. I'm returning. I quit shortly after ML. So, here was my template. 6x 120: Eval Magery Resist Chiv Sword Med Obviously, this template is pretty old and out dated. I tried it out on TC and got OWNED. I guess they changed primary abilities to disfavor mages requiring tactics now. Then I tried. 120: Eval, magery, resist, sword. 100 med. 70 chiv, 70 tactics This template allowed me to use my primary abilities, but big surprise here I got owned again because my timing was off due to the fact, you can't use primary abilities while casting. Also chiv this low is pretty useless and might as well take tactics to 120, so I can at least hit harder. So my reasoning with the first chiv template is high survivability, strong quick heals, and excellent offense. In my opinion this was a template consistent of defense and offense. I almost never lost with this template. But, I have no choice now. So here's what I am thinking I might try out at least on TC: 6x 120: Eval Magery Resist Med Tactics Swords Use a broadsword/cutlass combo for crushing blow and bleed. Time and use as needed. ( i've ALWAYS favored tank mages, even pre AOS ) Something else I was thinking about is take away tactics and use poisoning, and use DP. But I guess I couldn't do this since I have to have tactics! I'm really not to interested in mysticism. I don't want it, nor need it, I've got 64 spells.. that's plenty I don't need anymore Those are the template ideas I'm tossing around though. Any ideas on templates? Really, I don't care how popular the template is, just what skills are in it. What are templates that are effective? Any ideas at all??! JUST POST IT!!! Thanks. Doh also, might as well kill 2 birds with 1 stone. What are some suit ideas? By this I mean what artifacts are you incorporating in your suit? Im thinking about getting the orny, but I have the Hat of the Magi and rune beetle carapace right now. Also have pendant of the magi. I dont' really care for losing any artifacts except my hat. The hat stays, it looks too cool. What are other newer/sick artifacts that are good for mages?