I have both of these and neither seems to be able to work with EC. The problem is that the normal keyboard works (for the G15) but I cannot get any Macro to work. All I am looking to do is activate my G1-G18 keys as I can then have a less awkward left hand function. Simply no recognician of the G keys in the game--am using EC--anyone got any ideas on this? And I tried both notmal and log in as admin. Also, logitech does not have a set profile for UO--as opposed to just ablut any other game on the market--anyone found that? Thanks, returning player and I would like to use the keyboard anyway.