Ok I know this was locked but it's a shame some threads get locked before everyone has their say.. I think it's a dam shame cartel has ended. I know a lot of people will disagree with this but think about it for a min.. The cartel has been a part of baja for a long time. I remember hanging out in haven with Veral he moved on to be a GM of one of the most honest pvp guilds in the game. "yes people I know it changed" when I was in cartel I remember someone saying they used a program( I won't say what it was) and BP told the guy delete that from your comp or don't come back and bam he was gone. This guy was kicked from vent right then, and removed from the guild. This was the guild that took on SI in SI's prime and omg that was a lot of people this was the guild that took on FL on their world tour for baja and many more. There is a lot of history on baja and it has always had Cartel there, love them or hate them they were a part of baja as well as [email protected], M!S, SA, SI and many more it is in a way sad to see them disappear. So I guess what I'm trying to say is I hope you come back, and play on baja Veral. I wish you and your family the best of luck man be safe over there. I look forward to slapping you when you return and thank you for your serves. even if your a noobie!!