and I quote Pluffy... At one point they claimed that a certain guild/players were the reason for people not wanting to play here. I believe the words were undesirables? But most people came to siege to have fun and pvp away from trammel... They (JSV) have slowly started to try to turn siege into trammel... Its pretty obvious when everyone outside of their alliance agrees that they are the reason people dont want to play here. Why its almost as if they have 40 ghost cams, and are raiding champs at the very last second..you know in the not wanting to make people play here division..oh wait..you did that...my mistake wrong bunch. note**poster is not a member of JSV or any allied guild, just a very long time active siege player making notes.