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Discussion in 'UHall' started by uoBuoY, Sep 1, 2009.

  1. uoBuoY

    uoBuoY Guest

    So I'm training a GD with Swoop (Disco/Tamer) and a Para Changeling is beating on a fellow Tamer in the Twisted Weald. In a moment of complete stupidity, I throw a 120.0 Disco at the Para Changeling trying to help. Of course, it has no effect, except to focus the Para Changeling's ire on lowly me, who is wearing a 2,200 luck suit with very low resists. so I'm monochrome in less than 2 seconds. I get a local rez. My insured Novo Bleue bracelet is on my gump but my insured Etoile Bleue ring is not!!! I think...what an idiot!?!?!? I insured one and not the other!!! Run to Body...double click body and insured Etoile Bleue ring suddenly appears! Good news but also bad news. Click on Etoile Bleue ring and it is, in fact, insured, right there on the second line...in big letters: "Insured".

  2. GalenKnighthawke

    GalenKnighthawke Grand Poobah
    Stratics Veteran

    May 12, 2008
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    There's still insurance bugs out there.

    Also....This usually happens with blessed items, but sometimes happens with insured items too....Sometimes the item can actually be there but you, for some reason, can't see it.

    When you dressed, did you use a UO Assist Macro? UO Assist sees all, even things you can't.

    -Galen's player
  3. uoBuoY

    uoBuoY Guest

    No...I don't use UOA.
  4. Basara

    Basara UO Forum Moderator
    Moderator Professional Governor Stratics Veteran Wiki Moderator Stratics Legend Campaign Supporter

    Jul 16, 2003
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    did you insure the ring with a different character? Sometimes that causes it to fail, too. That's why you can't put items on vendors anymore, that are insured.
  5. CatLord

    CatLord Guest

    Just make sure you have...


    Problem solved.

    My personal perspective on the insurance bug...

    - Outsiders can hack your menu and remove insurance...
    - Change it so you must hold shift down to activate menus...
    - problem solved (hopefully)

    I have been in felluca for many years... hum, for all of them... and those that have this option active NEVER lost one item.

    Not sure if this is paranoia or fact... the only thing I know is... it works.
  6. Kiminality

    Kiminality Guest

    Sounds a little far-fetched to me, tbh.

    But, on the subject of solutions, I click my heels together and spin around on my chair three times every time I die, and I've never lost an item to this bug.
  7. Alezi

    Alezi Lore Keeper
    Stratics Veteran Stratics Legend

    Sep 29, 2007
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    Yes.... outsiders... :eyes:
  8. Black Sun

    Black Sun Grand Poobah
    Stratics Veteran Alumni

    Mar 19, 2003
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    Are you seriously that paranoid that you think people are hacking your context menu's? Really?

    Your suggestion holds no merit. I have been using insurance since it's introduction, and same with context menus. My menu's have always been set to use the right mouse button, never lost an item. It's just a random bug the the OP unfortunately got hit by. Thanfully, he didn't lose his item. It has nothing to do with how you insure your items or the boogeymen 'hacking' your menu.
  9. CatLord

    CatLord Guest

    "Fixing the 'insurance bug'. Targeting in UO is request/response. The server tells the client that it needs a target. The client then changes the cursor to a targeting cursor and sends a response back to the server when the player picks something. The server then fires a callback on the item that requested the target. The problem was that the item was determined from information in the target response, so the server was stupidly trusting the client in this respect. In most cases, the scripts that controlled targeting had their own "security" but it was up to the developer to script it in every case. In the case of insurance, the 'item' the callback fired on was the player requesting to insure/uninsure something and there was no security. Now the security of all request/response formats is ensured by the server at a global level."


    I never post without merit...

    Dont blame it on the.... BOOOOOGIEMAN or he is going to GETCHA!

  10. Kiminality

    Kiminality Guest

    Still doesn't work for me.
  11. chad

    chad Sage
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    Jun 11, 2008
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    ...no, just no. People like you are the reason this game gets worse. Making stupid stuff like this up.
  12. Diomedes Artega

    Diomedes Artega Certifiable
    Stratics Veteran

    Oct 9, 2008
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    Personally, I always make sure I have enough money in the bank. 600 gold per insured item upon death (if I recall correctly). Otherwise, when you die, an item will have a random chance of not being insured.

    Other than that, I use UO Assist and set everything to a body equip macro. I've never, ever lost anything...ever. Trammel, Felucca or otherwise. UO Assist always sees what you may not. Just hit equip macro and walla. If you still have the item in your pack it will equip.
  13. MalagAste

    MalagAste Belaern d'Zhaunil
    Governor Stratics Veteran Alumni Stratics Legend Campaign Supporter Royal Knight

    Aug 21, 2000
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    Another reason insured items fall to the body is you were cursed and overweight when you die.... and sometimes this causes insured items to "fall" with your corpse...

  14. Slayvite

    Slayvite Babbling Loonie
    Stratics Veteran Supporter Stratics Legend

    Jul 13, 2005
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    I agree with Diomedes, i allways keep a stack of gold coins in my bank box(not in a container).
    The bug normally only affects me when my insurance is being taken out of a check, it dont like it for some reason.
    Glad you got you stuff back thou, it's really annoying when a para blood elem has looted most of your insured stuff off your body ;)
  15. Yen Sid

    Yen Sid Guest

    You are charged when you insure the item, you are only charged again when you get rezzed (if auto-insure is on) and if you have no gold in the bank your stuff won't be reinsured but will still be in your pack when you get rezzed (just not insured anymore), but if you were to die again all of your stuff would be on your body and ripe for the taking.
  16. Siteswap

    Siteswap Visitor

    May 17, 2009
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    Ive heard also that if you eat some food and cross a server line before you insure something then the bug will not strike. NEVER insure anything whilst your character is hungry! ;)
  17. uoBuoY

    uoBuoY Guest

    OP here...
    None of my chars is permitted to log out with less than 300k gps (not checks) in their banks. Just a little pin money!