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Is there a new bug with Ilshenar Champ Spawn?

Discussion in 'UHall' started by DarkVoid, Apr 16, 2009.

  1. DarkVoid

    DarkVoid Guest

    I read in the publish notes that the Ilshenar champ spawn has been fixed.

    But lately, I'm getting the feeling that either there is a new bug, or that I'm doing something wrong somewhere.

    I've soloed the champ spawn a few times on the lower level spawn on my home shard, Oceania, and in all of the time it takes to work through the shadow wisps and wisps spawn, I do not get any SOT's at all dropping into my backpack most of the time.

    Maybe I kill things too slowly or something but I would have thought if I'm the only one out there killing the spawn that there should be at least a small chance something should drop.

    I don't bother looting the non-paragon shadow wisp spawn because I've already got plenty of bones, but I do bother with looting the wisp spawn as 30k of gold in the bank with a bag of sending is very beneficial to my characters. I loot paragon shadow wisps because of the chance for chocolatiering ingredients and a small amount of gold.

    Perhaps 3% chance is too low for the RNG to kick in. I do feel if someone works a spawn they should at least have a minimum guaranteed chance of getting a drop at some point.

    I have also joined in on spawn at the wisp level, and gotten to where Lord Oaks spawns, and eventually releases his Lady after being attacked by players, and received nothing in return for all the trouble I go to in order to kill Silvani and Lord Oaks. Sometimes my greater dragon gets unlucky and dies, and I've got to spend time healing him up and then get him back into the fight but I'm okay with that. I do wish I could find ways of getting to items I need to speed up my character, the current looting system leaves a lot to be desired when looking for good stuff. And the RNG doesn't help if you don't actually have luck on your suit.

    I do know that I don't have a lot of mana regen on the Sorcerer's suit I'm wearing on my tamer, and that I should probably want to get taming jewels with better mods and FC/FCR on them but there should be at least some kind of chance I'll get a drop of some sort from Lord Oaks when i join in with others to kill him.

    I'm not exactly in favour of looting rights going exclusively to the top damagers - this is purely and simply unfair for all the spawn I've killed. I'm also not liking the wiping of the spawn points at the end of the champ. There has to be a way of making sure that drops from a champ spawn will drop according to how well the player is doing over time if they're working champ spawns. There should also be some sort of magical item which can tell them if they're working enough of the spawn or putting out enought damage onto the champ, much like the skill tutor statuettes work.

    Perhaps the Doom Artifact system that drops items for people over time could be adapted to work with Ilshenar champ spawns. I don't mind receiving rubbish items, like the begging or item ID SOT's, or even the cavorting club artifact. But I would like to be able to receive something, occasionally, for my troubles or I may as well just go back to farming ogre lords for gold. They really are not very difficult at all with a greater dragon.

    Cheers ...

  2. I got 4 SoT's the last time I worked the Oaks spawn just up to the 2nd level, along with 1 Ilsh minor artifact, and this was with looting every Shadow Wisp for it's bones. You just hit a bad run with the RNG.
  3. Teeshy

    Teeshy Guest

    I'm in the exact same boat DarkVoid. I'm often at Oaks working at least to the wisps on my own, cos I'm finding them good gold, and good training (and I collect the seeds) but I don't get SoT's

    I figure the RNG gods just hate me =P Possibly I could be doing it all too slowly too =)
  4. HillBilly

    HillBilly Guest

    Ilsh. champ on Atlantic seems to be stuck for past few days. Hasnt gone past 6 red candles.
    4 white ones, poof, still 6 red.
    Rinse and repeat.

    Paged, got a pretty quick response but said to report it to QA.
  5. Kim Li of LS

    Kim Li of LS Guest

    I have had similar experances with the Twisted Glade Champion Spawn. I have worked the spawn up to the Cu level (Solo) many, many times (aprox 20-30) and have receved 2 SoT total. So that would be about 2-5% drop rate per level......
  6. red sky

    red sky Sage
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    May 12, 2008
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  7. I'm with others in being in the "same" boat. I've done many champ spawns since publish 58, the publish I was actually able to get part of my free time back and start playing UO more frequently. Out of I'll estimate around 250-300 champ spawns so far, I've only gotten 1 replica, a slime, which I got for appearing at the end of the spawn of Baracoon on my what was then newb unfinished bushido character. I may get 1 or 2 sot's during a spawn, then go up to as many as 5 spawns without getting any.

    I never get anything off of my tamer. I'm not sure if thats because I don't kill as much stuff or do as much damage but my tamer feels nerfed beyond usefulness. I know a lot of you wither necros and sampires are probably laughing at that statement but don't worry, I have both of those too!:thumbsup:

    As far as the fix for champs to work up spawn to get replica goes, I believe it is still broken. Like I mentioned above, the only replica I have gotten out of 250-300 spawns (post pub 58) came after Baracoon appeared and I had just gotten to the spawn location. So that definitely needs fixed because I know of a lot of leechers that call in mass guildies at the last level of the spawn who get higher chances of a drop rate out of higher numbers than my 3 or 4 friends who I invite to do the spawn and get maybe 1 or 2 sot's altogether.

    I think the balance equation needs tweaked as well. It shouldn't be fair for a wither mage to run through and annihilate everything leaving nothing for other players (tamers, archers etc - people who have to kill spawn 1 at a time).
  8. Sarsmi

    Sarsmi Grand Poobah
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    Apr 25, 2001
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    I go out to oaks spawn every couple days for bones, I get either 500 or 1k (thats about as much farming as I can stand), and I've gotten 2 SoTs since they started the whole thing. This is on my crafter, with a blue beetle to carry the bones, she isn't wearing a luck suit or anything. Dunno if that's a factor.
  9. Smokin

    Smokin Guest

    I have been hearing of people getting the replicas before the champ has even spawned. Someone told me they got 3 like that so far, this is after pub 58 too.
  10. badskidmark

    badskidmark Guest

    I've done the Sleeping Dragon in tokono 31 times (thats when I gave up) since the SOT's started and I still have not gotten a single one...several times working the first two levels of spawn myself...It's hard to believe the RNG can be that bad...no idea wht the problem is...I don't even bother trying anymore.
  11. WildWobble

    WildWobble Sage
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    May 21, 2008
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    Well your all hard done by it seems. Myself i went to illsh oaks the other day on my archer and advanced it to oaks all alone got three sots and had to call in some help for oaks/sil but then got the Wind Spirit replica and oh yeah this is also on oceiana so i don't think its broken i just think your haveing a run of bad luck if was fel i bet you would have gotten heaps of 105 scrolls heheh.!
  12. badskidmark

    badskidmark Guest

    well...just did 3 more spawns from start to finish....still not a single drop...this is odd...
  13. Basara

    Basara UO Forum Moderator
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    Jul 16, 2003
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    My experience is that I'll go 3-6 spawns without any drops, then get 3-4 in ONE spawn.

    Something weird is probably happening, all right.
  14. It Lives

    It Lives Slightly Crazed
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    Jun 11, 2008
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    This is exactly whats happens with my account, more like 3-5 spawns (nothing) then *shAAZaM* 4 *sarcasm* (pink)scrolls in a row on a spawn.

    It happens this way with all my drops not just champs, doom,10th anny, marties.......
  15. Chiera

    Chiera Guest

    yes same pattern here, but no surprise though. The spooky streaky rng is as old as uo.
  16. Farsight

    Farsight Crazed Zealot
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    May 12, 2008
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    I'll third that. After my last reports of getting an abnormally high amount of everything, I haven't gotten a single arti/SoT/Replica until yesterday, then I got 3 SoT's from 3 monsters in a row and an Ilsh artifact from the next paragon I killed, keeping me in the proper rate of drops over time.

    But that's normal for me in any given UO situation. Either I get everything good or nothing at all.
  17. El Phantasmo

    El Phantasmo Guest

    One thing I have noticed with the Ilsh/Tokuno champs is that I do not seem to get SOT's when there is "residual" spawn left over from when a previous group bumped it up but did not finish it. More specifically, when I don't get the gain in Valor message for killing that monster in the spawn area, I do not get an SOT. However, when a group completed the previous spawn I' am MUCH more likely to get SOT's.
  18. badskidmark

    badskidmark Guest

    I wish it was only every 3-5 without...just did 2 more...36 total now...still no drops...might have to go hit up fel...ilsh and tokuno hate me...