120 ninja 120 fence 100 hide 80 stealth 90 tactics 85 Magic resist 105 chivalry 60 meditation There are MANY MANY options to go with this template now. You can even add an extra skill if you wish, depending on your item limit. A ninja or fencing mark of the travesty, shadow dancers, or some extra MR armor here and there, and you can get some more anatomy, or even poisoning. My own personal suit is.......... 10 hit point regen (12 when I acquire a crimson) 5 Mana regen 59 70 70 63 70 Resists 4/6 Casting (All weapons have 1 FC) 24 BASE HCI (Before weapon) 5 DCI (Quivers = love?) +5 stealth 1/3 11 HCI and +5 stealth on my brace. PVP = You can pretty much poison, spam holy light, spam bleed, deathstrike, and armor ignore ANYONE to death. Not to mention, YOUR AN ESCAPE ARTIST'e! Smoke Bombs, 4/6 heals, Removing Curses, Animal Forms, Hiding. You always get the element of surprise. You can walk up to someone, mount, and start the chase. Get dismounted and go into animal form. So many benefits. Try it before you say its noob. PvM = You can GO anywhere and not die. At 120 ninja, Cat and Dog form gives you 40 HPR. 50 if you have some on your suit. Chivalry will give ya the damage boost you need now, and tactics will give you your specials, as usual. Slayer weapons + chivalry + 90 tactics will give you DECENT hits, not quite as high as the decked out dexxer, but definitely enough for any looting rights. Many people say it cannot be done, that ninjitsu is a PvP only skill. Well, now you all have a Ninja that you can use for PvM, and PvP, and not have to worry about switching chars. I hope this helped all those posts I see about PvM ninjas.