First of all I am relatively new to siege, I have been here for about 3 months now. I joined the Guild of NEW which I will say is the best thing for a noob in siege. I read the forum about 3 or 4 times a day and along with game playing I have come to notice a few things. 1. KOC is good for the game for a few reasons. In any game you have to have a good and bad guys. Well KOC has determined that they are the bad guys of Siege. They love going around PKing anyone and everyone. Hell I have been killed 4 times on siege all by KOC. So as I read a lot on the forums I do understand the hatred or discontent for KOC. I will give KOC this, they are good at what they do in more ways than one. 2. On the flip side to that KOC is bad for Siege as they do kill anyone and everyone including members of NEW. I know because 2 of the times I was killed I was a member of NEW and they dry looted my both times. Now what this can do for Siege is discourage new members from coming over to our shard which in turn is bad for Siege. Now with that said I want to say this to KOC. I like having you guys around especially now that a buddy and I have started our own guild together. It is fun to do. See we came over to Siege after playing on Legends for almost a year and wanted to get into the PvP aspect of UO. Now that we are over here it was easy to find a guild that you just love to hate. I myself am not that good as a pvper yet, but I plan on becoming one. I am going nowhere nor is our guild the Fellowship of Vengence. The way I see it we will join in any alliance that has a grudge agianst KOC. We are almost done with our templates (which I will talk about that in another thread coming next) and we will not run but stand and fight against KOC forever! Now I do plan on dying a lot but hey that is Siege right? In any case it will be fun and I look forward to doing battle with you guys very soon.