no ****talking from either side, this has been done way too much in other places. but since everyone (yes both koc and tnt) complains about numbers, template, situation, temps on the moon and what not, why not agree on some rules and make a little fun tournament. lets say each guild has to sport 10 or 15 or whatever guys. then we can do 1vs1's, 2vs2's, 5vs5's and whatever we feel like. if jsv or to feel like it, might even have them joining. have a nice specator area for people to watch, maybe someone recording fights. and for whoever was listed and cant show up, we can have the matches fought at a later point with and upload the vids for everyone who was not able to watch the fights. this would give a nice event for both fighters and watchers. plus the next time people start talking ****, wed already have ruleset for another epeen measuring contest xD and now dont use this thread to talk **** like someone wont show up, someone sucks and will loose or what not, just talk for yourself and say if youd like to do something like that.