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Mage feeling usless - Was Not being able to cast in invaded towns intentional ?

Discussion in 'UHall' started by Mayadevi, May 19, 2008.

  1. Mayadevi

    Mayadevi Guest

    Hey Folks, Many sorries if this was brought up already.

    I'm currently playing a mage and feeling rather useless. I've played through a bunch of invasion events: Trinsic, Magincia, Moonglow. This is the first time I remember getting a message saying " You can't cast that in town".

    Ok, but erm.. I'm a MAGE. I can't cast field spells, or summons. I can't cast nature's fury...Hrm, what can I do? I can rez, and heal and die, that seems to be about it.

    The spawn is something fierce and I'm actually beginning to wonder if something is broken. But is it just me ?

    Does anyone else Remember being able to cast, EV's and furies during the other invasions?

    Did someone forget to turn something off? Or is this intentional ?


    (feeling sort of useless against 4 vanguard controllers, 3 or 4 berserker demons and a screen full of spawn she really ought to have taken a picture of, even if it was grey)
  2. Nisse/Ubbe

    Nisse/Ubbe Guest

    One in time you could cast all spells in towns, but they change it becous folks cant take responcebilety for their actions.

    Opend it up and we will see alot stupid mages being guardvacked.
  3. Azureal

    Azureal Guest

    I hear what youre saying. Went to Cove today for the first time, there was spawn EVERYWHERE, and I couldnt do a thing about it.

    After 10 plus years, youd think the Devs would start to get a clue in regards to town invasions.

    Heres how you should have done it (you can send my cheque to me personally, PM for banking details...):

    The first scouting party arrives in X town, and roughs up a few of the NPCs. A shop/house/dwelling or two gets boarded up, with a sign saying the authoraties are investigating. Throw a couple blood tiles around the building, smash a window, whatever.

    Second wave hits. Thin out the NPCs (Im talking, humans and creatures) by nothing less than 50%. This helps not only with lag and a cleaner battlefield, but adds to the story that if a town gets attacked, most folks aint gonna hang around, theyll get the hell out of dodge. This is where town casting can be turned off. Give the mages some sugar.

    Third wave and things get a little more serious. Theres now very few if any NPCs left. Theres monsters/critters everywhere. Possibly leave some vendor NPCs inside, maybe selling the necesities to adventurers at a reduced cost. Regs, arrows, bandages, etc.

    You go to Cove right now, youve got all the regular town NPCs, all the cats dogs and birds to start a zoo, plus a massive group of spawning attackers. Its insanely frustrating and confusing.
  4. Piotr

    Piotr Stratic's Finest
    Professional Stratics Veteran Supporter Alumni Stratics Legend Campaign Patron

    Feb 26, 2004
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    The area around the black moongate in Moonglow (old Moonglow side) is 110% blocked for "magery"!

    You can't heal yourself upon a resurrection.
    You can't close wound yourself upon a resurrection.
    You can't even mount your ethereal horse!!!
    You can't...

  5. Oh ! you mean "After 10 plus years, youd think the Devs would start ..." that they haven't changed the manner that town invasions run ... in ten years ...

    and that "veteran class players " STILL haven't adapted ?


    Saved me asking "When have mages ever" been able to cast the uncastable in towns ...

    :confused: thx :thumbup1:
  6. Snakeman

    Snakeman Grand Inquisitor
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    Jun 13, 2002
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    And many of the red sailors in Serp's can't be barded upon anything. Now visa versa you can, but when your in a hurry it kind of sucks :thumbdown:. If every other darn monster in there can cast magery, Necro, spells, give me a good reason we can't...
  7. Mayadevi

    Mayadevi Guest

    Thanks folks !

    Nisse - I got myself guardwhacked the other day ! On my SwordsChick I think it was. I was showing my husband something and whacked him and then said,
    " Now I am a criminal and can get guardwhacked if you say "guards !"

    Oppsie ! :p

    Azureal - I'd love an invasion like that ! Maybe Draconi could even leave some buildings on fire to burn while we.. kill things, or die !

    Piotr - OMG, is it that bad in Moonglow, on the oldside ?!? I haven't been in the city for a while, I lost soo much money I was trying to make some more in cove and Nu'jelm ! Bad idea that was...very bad idea, lol.:wall:

    Fayled Dhreamsn - But... but...That's what I am saying ! I remember doing it ! OK, I'm really sleep deprived right now, but I REMEMER casting EV's at the Magincia Invasion ! I really really do ! I prolly have witnesses even !

    Then again, I remember getting guardwhacked because I accidentally killed some Npc in town....or another player...Oh dear, maybe I'm too tired and that was really really the bad old days !

    I'll believe everyone if they say it's not broken, I was just wondering if the forgot to shut something off... maybe the guard zone?

    Mayadevi (going to get some sleep , maybe she ought to have done that BEFORE posting ;)
  8. TheScoundrelRico

    TheScoundrelRico Stratics Legend
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    Aug 12, 2001
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    Welcome to the world of the thief. Most items have been blessed or not stealable so join the list to character classes that have been excluded from most of these scenarios...la
  9. BartofCats

    BartofCats Guest

    probably because Flamestrike, E-bolts, fireballs, pain-spike, wither, corpse skin etc ARE acceptable in town. Saying mages are useless is bogus.

    In regards to the OP, try a different tactic and dont rely on your summons or fields. Im not going to tell ya how tho.. my mage does pretty well on his own.
  10. christy1221

    christy1221 Slightly Crazed
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    May 12, 2008
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    You could cast ev's in magincia and in vesper when the ophidians were there I'm pretty sure in papua too but I stayed in vesper most of the time. I remember people complaining about no casting in vesper so they turned off the guard zone. Hopefully they will now too.
  11. GalenKnighthawke

    GalenKnighthawke Grand Poobah
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    May 12, 2008
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    OK, let's be clear here.

    You can cast. I've seen many mages do very well at this event on LS.

    You just have to attack directly. Casting spells directly on your opponent.

    I agree, however, that summons should be enabled, if possible, if it wouldn't screw up guard zones in Fel. (They've done this before I believe.)

    But let's not kid ourselves. Mages can do, and have done , well at this event.

    -Galen's player
  12. Lord Kynd

    Lord Kynd Guest

    learn to USE your magery /spellweave/necro skills without having Energy vortex's fighting for you.

    actually, EA please do open the towns for all magery spells, but also make EVERYTHING (rat included) auto dispel within a 4 tile radius. problem solved 110%
  13. packrat

    packrat Guest

    The way it is right now. There is no way (legally)a mage can solo a vanguard and the spawn it produces after a few hit points. Mages are the only group affected. Archers, warriors, and tamers templates all work without getting a messages. I have not tried my bard yet to see if they can be barded.
    I went with my mage/spellweaver and didnt stay long. Even the liches do pretty good damage to you.
  14. packrat

    packrat Guest

    Went to Papau with my bard/mage and did very well. I soloed 3 vangaurds and the spawn around it fairly easy. I was surprised how easy it was. Peacing and discord them fairly easy, then I just provo the spawn on them. I was even able to provo two on each other fairly easy. When they died the mare they were on disappeared.