But I have no respect for people who will lie about getting the plot to my keep.. they provide no proof and would rather "egg people on" rather than give proof. These people claim one thing, and fail when you ask for evidence. These miscreants try to make me feel bad for losing my place, when if they'd bother checking they would know I don't really care. It is only a healthy concern that I wish to know who obtained my keep. This may be just me.. and maybe my sense of honor means nothing.. but if a leader lies, gets called out on it.. and they can't defend themselves.. they don't deserve leadership. A true leader will admit mistakes, and promise to do better. Hoffs lied about getting my "Vesper Keep" when in fact EVERYONE knows my keep was near Britain. Trust Hoffs as much as you want.. I for one put honor above all else. Right or wrong.. a person who can admit mistakes is good for me.