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OT- Virus Protection

Discussion in 'UO Siege Perilous' started by Midnight Rambler, Apr 23, 2008.

  1. While I'm pretty well versed in the human side of this topic, I know very little when it comes to protecting computers. I had a program named "Avast" which worked pretty well, and I guess I picked it up a year ago since it's now telling me it's expired.

    I really don't want to pay for anything so I wondering if anyone knew any free virus protection programs available. I have always put tremendous amount of trust in the insight of the diverse Siege community, so I come to you all for your advice and wisdom. I don't want to have to abstain from using my computer in any solid capacity for much longer so any direction would be greatly appreciated.
  2. Guest

    Guest Guest

    I've used AVG for years and not so far had cause to regret it.


    It's a good idea to also use a spyware detector, spyware isn't a virus, so virus scanners don't find it, but it is hostile.
  3. Guest

    Guest Guest

    I use nothing, I have disables my firewalls as they interfere with my activities.
    I have never had a virus,

    a. do not use P2P programs such as Kazaa
    b. do not visit questionable websites such as warez or pr0n
    c. do not run software from untrusted websites including zip files.
    d. all websites are untrustworthy unless you know the network admin personally, even then it might be iffy.
  4. Guest

    Guest Guest


    I use nothing, I have disables my firewalls as they interfere with my activities.
    I have never had a virus

    [/ QUOTE ]

    None that U are aware of perhaps?

    To the OP.
    I downloaded AVG myself yesterday cuz I´ve heard some recommendations from friends about that one. Hope it works... [​IMG]
  5. Guest

    Guest Guest



    I use nothing, I have disables my firewalls as they interfere with my activities.
    I have never had a virus

    [/ QUOTE ]

    None that U are aware of perhaps?

    [/ QUOTE ]

    I do a visual check of all running process at least once a week
    I have a change log of all changes to system files or files added to the hard drive.
    It helps if you know what you are doing.
  6. Guest

    Guest Guest

    I thought I would post this as a little extra help:

    Some general tips on avoiding virus infections:

    1. Install anti-virus software from a well-known, reputable company,
    UPDATE it regularly, and USE it regularly.

    New viruses come out every single day; an a-v program that hasn't been
    updated for several months will not provide much protection against current

    2. In addition to scanning for viruses on a regular basis, install an 'on
    access' scanner (included in most good a-v software packages) and configure
    it to start automatically each time you boot your system. This will protect
    your system by checking for viruses each time your computer accesses an
    executable file.

    3. Virus scan any new programs or other files that may contain executable
    code before you run or open them, no matter where they come from. There
    have been cases of commercially distributed floppy disks and CD-ROMs
    spreading virus infections.

    4. Anti-virus programs aren't very good at detecting Trojan horse
    programs, so be extremely careful about opening binary files and Word/Excel
    documents from unknown or 'dubious' sources. This includes posts in binary
    newsgroups, downloads from web/ftp sites that aren't well-known or don't
    have a good reputation, and executable files unexpectedly received as
    attachments to E-mail or during an on-line chat session.

    5. If your E-mail or news software has the ability to automatically execute
    JavaScript, Word macros, or other executable code contained in or attached
    to a message, I strongly recommend that you disable this feature.

    6. Be _extremely_ careful about accepting programs or other files during
    on-line chat sessions: this seems to be one of the more common means that
    people wind up with virus or Trojan horse problems. And if any other family
    members (especially younger ones) use the computer, make sure they know not
    to accept any files while using chat.

    7. Do regular backups. Some viruses and Trojan horse programs will erase or
    corrupt files on your hard drive, and a recent backup may be the only way to
    recover your data.

    Ideally, you should back up your entire system on a regular basis. If this
    isn't practical, at least backup files that you can't afford to lose or that
    would be difficult to replace: documents, bookmark files, address books,
    important E-mail, etc.
  7. Spree

    Spree Babbling Loonie
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    I use Kaspersky internet security. It up dates several times a day It blocks the ads on this page. When window does an update it tell me that IE has been changed and ask it i want to allow it to access the net. It does the same thing when UO patches. Spybot search and destroy hasn't found any thing since I installed it years ago. The only thing Adware ever find are some tracking cookies.
  8. angelus aconitum

    angelus aconitum Journeyman
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  9. Guest

    Guest Guest

    This is a really good site for software that gives you full control of your computer

    I like to use Highjackthis to see exactly what is going on.
  10. Guest

    Guest Guest

    I also use AVG, it is very good and doesn't eat many cycles.

    P.S. Version 8 is out now and its really nice if you haven't upgraded.

    Also, the DOS command netstat is a very good thing to learn.
  11. Kat SP

    Kat SP Guest

    I've used AVG in the past, but am currently using Avast. I am by far, happier with Avast as it doesn't seem to slow my PC down the way AVG did. I believe you can re-download Avast and use it for free. Check the website for more information. I saw some mention of that when I recently installed it.

    PS.. I'm not saying AVG is bad. Quite the contrary. It just seemed to slow my pc down during scans and I didn't care for that.
  12. Guest

    Guest Guest

    These days, spyware poses a far greater hazard than viruses, and many attacks use combinations. Both identity theft &amp; spam are big business, and the name of that game is stealing your info or using your system to spam or attack other (usually commercial) computers, not crippling your system. In fact, they want your compromised system in working order, they just don't want you to know what they are using it for or stealing from it. Fortunately, most of the major commercial offerings now handle both aspects in one program and basically are anti "malware" products.

    I've been a fan of Trendmicro's free online malware scanner Housecall (http://housecall.trendmicro.com) for spot checking systems that have anti-malware applications installed but are acting wacky, and also first step scanning of systems with no protection. Incidentally, they bought the rights to HijackThis, another free spyware scanner (which Mechanic mentions). Trendmicro sells commercial solutions as well of course - it is what they do.

    I am all for saving money, but for most people, I'd encourage them to shell out the typically $30 to $50 and buy a well known, established multi-function malware solution with automatic updates, and some sort of application "behavioral" analysis and real time scanning. Once you buy the application, most companies offer reasonable subscription renewals for subsequent years. Of course they like you to buy upgrades, but I generally do not buy upgrades unless there has been a significant advance in detection method for the new version.

    Free solutions can be great for those who have the knowledge and/or the patience to properly maintain them (which is usually manually) but what tends to happen is users won't do that, and then their system is not really protected.

    For free anti spyware, Spybot Search &amp; Destroy is a pretty decent anti spyware tool and is free for personal use, but it misses more when matched against the well established commercial offerings. The author's site is http://www.spybot.info. It has multi-language support.

    For free antivirus, the free version of AVG which has been mentioned, is probably the most well established and most consistent "good" performer. The *not* free retail version has the other bells &amp; whistles packaged in as well.

    I have been testing the professional version of an anti spyware program called SuperAntiSpyware (http://www.superantispyware.com) for a while now on my home network and in my office. It seems to play nicely with Symantec AV corporate edition as well as the home/small business Norton 360. Norton scores extremely well in both anti virus and antispyware but SuperAntiSpyware was able to remove one annoying adware app from a system, that disabled the Norton engine. The program has a free personal edition, but the catch is you must manually update it and it does NOT offer continuous real time scanning in the free personal version.

    I also recommend regularly policing system processes. The net stat command which Vortex mentions, shows you what is actively listening on ports and can reveal things that are "stealthed" from the processes reporting).

    Use the command netstat -a to show all active connections.

    netstat -b is great for showing "what done it" - giving the executable that established the connection, especially if you think there is a rogue app running.

    A nice online utility that tells you processes running on your computer is http://www.fileresearchcenter.com.

    If you want a local utility, I'd suggest something like Process Explorer, a free Sysinternals utility for Windows, now available for download from Microsoft's Technet, but most people start trying to escape when I start to mention those sorts of things.

    *edit* ha...I started this reply much earlier in the day and didn't see all the in-between posts.

    I agree with Mechanic in terms of prevention (i.e. using good browsing habits and not being all click happy) being the first and best defense, but I personally don't want to rely on it as my only defense. [​IMG]

  13. Guest

    Guest Guest

    Just out of interest, how would you rate the Microsoft antispyware proggy Windows Defender?
  14. Guest

    Guest Guest

    Our office was in the early beta run, and it made a lot of work for me because it alarmed users with constant ominous messages and vaguely worded popups that required user intervention/decisions, without really informing. Like the Vista security settings, it essentially trained users to simply allow/accept everything which in my opinion totally defeats the purpose. I gave it a good run parallel with our other anti malware applications for almost a year, including upgrading to the 2nd beta release when it was available. When the beta program ended and they fully launched it as "Windows Defender" I didn't bother to do any further testing with that one. I haven't used it on my home network at all.

    Its main advantage is that it is free with a valid Microsoft operating system product, and it does an OK job. The latest reviews I have seen for it, when tested against malware still are a bit lackluster compared to for-purchase comparable products, but as a supplemental program for home use it is probably a good idea. I just couldn't deal with answering all the questions in a corporate environment that it constantly raised.