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Pet Training: What to fight

Discussion in 'UO Tamer' started by Merus, Apr 27, 2017.

  1. Merus

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    So I am training a Cu with GM wrestling. I have tried several different critters (OL, Crimson Drakes, Greater Dragons, Demons) and the only message I see is "slightly increased". Anyone have any luck finding critters to fight that give fairly or greatly increased?
     
  2. wishdragon

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    Possibly mud elemental, level 2 shame?

    They don't hurt much but have 120 wrestling.
     
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  3. Merus

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    Mud ele and clay golem were both slightly.
     
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    High fame works best...and even if it does say slightly, if you're training during your pets power hour you'll get more. The void critters in Ter Mur work well during power hour
     
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    Anyone try fighting the lighthouses down in Blackthorne's dungeon?
     
  6. Merus

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    Tried a few more, Balrons, etc... only slightly on all of them.
     
  7. Great DC

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    didn't you do any testing on TC? Most knew the best spot to train!!
     
  8. Merus

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    I didn't test the leveling up process on a trained pet after they added the messages that showed the amount gained... only that they were gaining.

    But if you know, by all means share.
     
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    I trained a Cu in both levels of training on nothing but Swoop.Took 79 on the first level then 99 on the second level. Used the "power hour" them mastery after the power hour. Slow but steady gains all the way.
     
  10. Merus

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    Swoop is also slightly. So is a paragon Cu.
     
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    Okay don't worry about the ~Slightly~ Message...you seem to be getting hung up on that. If you want the big gains, go kill big stuff....Champ Spawns, Peerless bosses..etc. But the slightly gains adjust as well...I can get a .1% slightly gain off one thing but a 10% slightly gain off something else..just watch your %..if you want great gains, go kill great stuff ;)
     
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    Does whispering improve your pet training progress?
     
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  13. Merus

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    Ya, after seeing the difference in slightly, I was hoping that a fairly or greatly would be really good. Alas, either the message is broken, or I don't really think that this level anything is going to be more than slightly.
     
  14. BeaIank

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    Hit Trasher at Fel Blighted Grove.
     
  15. Angel

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    No, just skills.
     
  16. drcossack

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    I went to various places: I started a bunch of pets on a Blind Justice Paladin (may or may not still be available on your shard), which got multiple pets to about 50%. I also killed Greater Dragons (and a Paragon Greater), Ancient Wyrm, and fought a few other things, like Eternal Gazers. However, I had the most gains from the T-Rex and Navrey. Against those two, my gains were always either 1.25% or 2.50%. I dual-cliented everything (for the Blind Justice Paladin, I brought pets from my other account knowing how well they'd gain) since I knew I'd need a Greater to tank.

    I would assume that all boss-level monsters give similar gains, but I haven't fought any others to compare.
     
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    Hit up Narvey, the gains are great!
     
  18. Coco_Zamis_DF

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    Trained 4 pets to 100% in 3 hours. Finished most of them during PH.
    This was easy going with a group of 3 to 7 tamers. You have to Dive deep Into the dungeons.
     
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    Shame level 5 seems to be best. The Crazed Mage is not that hard to tank and gives great gains, Wind Elementals are also quite good to tank if you dont get too many, the Burning Mage can be annyoing, but in a group good doable and gives good gains, the Unbound Vortexes hit hard, so hard to tank. Eternal Gazers one level down give good gains too, but are not that easy for untrained pets.
     
  20. Uvtha

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    What about for wimpy stuff? I tried training a walrus on test and it was pretty dang hard to keep it alive.
     
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    I started with a wolf in Moonglow killing chickens and cats and dogs...build up from there lol
     
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    I get good gains on liches... but they one-two shot my pets cause they have no resists. :/
     
  23. drcossack

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    Gonna have to try level 5 next. I did think about it but wasn't crazy about dual-clienting it. My Nightmare is a freaking tank, so I'll try it.
     
  24. redman2k

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    Will a pet still gain if the tamer tanks the monster instead of the pet? And does fighting harder monsters increase a pets exp faster? I am mainly asking regarding "wimpy" pets like a timber wolf. If I tank a lich would they gain more than the .01-.02 like they do now fighting cows, hearts, bears and ogres?
     
  25. Uvtha

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    As far as I can tell the only way to "quickly" raise weak pets is to have 5 weak ass things wail on them while they sit there and take it, and you vet as fast as possible to keep it alive. It still takes like an 30-45 minutes and hundreds of bandages to gain 1%.

    Maybe there's a better way but I haven't found it so far.
     
  26. drcossack

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    Yes. I was fighting boss-level/extremely durable monsters for most of yesterday: Eternal Gazer, Navrey, T-Rex. Eternal Gazers are decent, but you'll HAVE to use a Greater Dragon to start things off. A resist/HP bumped 4-slot Nightmare can easily tank the T-Rex with Consume Damage though.
     
  27. MalagAste

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    I hear everyone say Consume Damage but IMO that's never really done squat for me... still have to heal like mad. Personally I don't think Consume Damage really does anything noticeable worth working super hard to get a level 3 mastery for. I have 1 or 2 but honestly they are FAR too expensive to waste my gold on buying and getting one is nearly impossible.
     
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    The unbound EV seems to be doing really good for the Cu. Does energy damage and the Cu has naturally high energy resist. Getting greatly gains too. Thanks for the tip!
     
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    I raised my cu from 50% on it first training round to 100% and then did the full 100% on its second level up in about 4 navrey kills. As suggest above if you get a gd to tank it anything can hit it with immunity until the gd gets teleported away and webbed. The pet was gaining 2.5% per tick when in power hour and 1.25% after that. Discord helped make it easy to keep the gd up. I cant see why this wouldnt work for a 1 slot pet as long as you are ready to pull it back when the tank is ported away.
     
  30. Uvtha

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    I think for most peeps getting one slot pets to level two is gonna be quite a chore. Once you get to two it should be easier.
     
  31. drcossack

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    then either your taming is too low for a noticeable effect, or, more likely, you're not fighting monsters that do physical damage. It doesn't work against Fire/Cold/Poison/Energy damage.
     
  32. railshot

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    At level 3 mastery and legendary skills, in my experience, consume damage is the difference between "my GD dies quickly; I am not even close to keeping up with damage" and "I have to heal occasionally."
     
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    I guess I use the one that does the damage boost... I figure faster it's over the better... Unless I can't get anywhere near my pet I prefer that one. With 20+ tamers getting a level 3 for all of them... just not happening. I think 2 of my tamers have one... maybe 3... but that's it and I'm not about to pay 20+ mill for it.
     
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    Consume Damage converts Physical damage taken into HPR and HCI for your pet. The effectiveness of it is based on your real Taming/Lore skill, and it scales very sharply with skill. There's a pretty huge difference in it's performance even between 115 Taming/Lore and 120 Taming/Lore.

    What i've found to train on that works well, is the Allosaurus. Get great gains on them (especially for the pet that is tanking it), and you continue to get gains on them until the Allosaurus dies. It's not like some of the stupid tough mobs, where you stop getting gains halfway through it's health bar, and have to take a long time killing it so you can get a fresh one to spawn and gain off of.
     
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    A little off topic, but I would love to see a menu option to select the damage type that the taming masteries work off of... similar to the damage type on the discord mastery.

    @Kyronix @Bleak

    Would this be doable?
     
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    I always train in Shame level 5 and what I do is start on a crazed mage until my pet completely trains the first tier. I train up my resists first so that my pet can tank the unbound vortex. After training up resists, it's cake from there. Gains are pretty good on the unbound vortex. It will normally take me 2-3 hours to fully train a pet there.
     
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    I've trained 2 cus up from 0 at shame level 5. It is by far the best place to quickly train a pet assuming you have decent vet or magery/med to heal

    Sent from my SM-G920V using Tapatalk
     
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    Lich Lords... Lich Lord Paragons Illshenar
     
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    Nothing beats dread pirates for gain. If you have high seas that is the ONLY way to do it. One pirate will train a 1 or 2 slot pet from 0-100%, a 3 slot for 0-50 points, a 4 slot for 0-25 points. Best thing is to train a bunch at at time on ONE pirate for their max gains, stabling in between, then grab a new pirate for the next round. In the time it took me to get 2.65 points on my bane fighting 'stuff' for about an hour I got the full 25% on one pirate in 10mins. Pain to get the pirate but well worth it if you have a bunch of pets to run through the process.
     
  40. Merus

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    All of the high end mobs (Allosaurus, Crazed Mage, Unbound, etc) work the same as the pirates as far as gains go... some just do more damage than others. Crazed mage is popular because it does slight damage and is easy to fight again after one dies, etc.
     
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    Yeah but the beauty of dread pirates, especially where I play on siege, is you can gate to and from the stable to your boat which makes switching pets easy. On prodo it may be easy to get into the dungeons, on siege it isn't. Plus I tend to multi train, so I have a 1 slot beetle or hiryu working with a 4 slot pet, and a 2 slot working with a 3 slot and have multiple critters in training at once. I will take a 3 slot cu and work two a giant beetle and a fire beetle at level 1 with it etc. Plus you don't have to worry about other spawn etc.
     
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    Just Garth and his cannons! :hahaha:
     
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    Naaa Garth won't be gunning for me, plus, I have cannons on my boat too! Not to mention a couple of high hp vicious pets!
     
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    HP's are highly overrated. Skills and stats ftw! :)