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Project Zoo: What do you all think?

Discussion in 'UO Europa' started by Guest, Mar 27, 2008.

  1. Guest

    Guest Guest

    We've been knocking ourselves out for something close to a week now without making any progress. Level 8, level 9, level 8, level 9, the yamandon's been in and out of the zoo like a dang yo yo currently we're on level 8 again, so it's out.

    Also I've been informed, even if we get the silver steed it will take a daily input of around 330k points - that's 850 drakes or almost 5 million gp to keep it there.

    So how does everyone feel about it?
  2. Guest

    Guest Guest


    But theres no point..the zoo as been filled b4 alas it soon empties again as the point decay far to fast....the decay time needs to be reduced drastically to make it worth while maintaining a full zoo
  3. Guest

    Guest Guest

    I don't fully understand the zoo system, sadly.. Is there not a level you can reach where it will keep refreshed or something?

    to a lot of people, 5 mil is not a lot of cash, although on a daily basis it sure would add up.
  4. Anne

    Anne Journeyman
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    Nov 16, 2006
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    I wanted to be optimistic about it and say yes, but tbh a daily input of 330k points will get old fast. I don't see keeping that up endlessly every single day so I had to say no. [​IMG]
  5. It must be possible to get the silver steed in there, then hold a Europa community party at the the Zoo, get some nice screenies and keep those for the good and proud memories, but after that we fear it will be hard to keep enough people interested in ... well, 850 drakes per day, nuff said. [​IMG] [​IMG]
    We still try to do 10 drakes per day each, but this morning were a lil late for work so missed it... And away for the weekend... so there goes another 60 drakes... so hard to keep up CONSTANTLY...
  6. Guest

    Guest Guest

    Cards on the table, I voted:-

    No, it's turning into work and not enjoyable.

    As well as checks, and all the gold donated from every training session/hunt I've done since this kicked off, I put drakes, dragons, reptalons, white wyrms and wolves into that donation box only to see it see-saw back & forth from level 8 to 9 and back again.

    Huge thanks to everyone who contributed in whatever their chosen manner.

    I'm proud of us, we did great, it was fun and community spirit was upheld. That was the essense, the point, to me and it's been accomplished.

    *group hug*
  7. Guest

    Guest Guest

    I voted teh same nico. should be that when u max out all the animals stay. not much point to the decay that i can see. its not even a gold sink unless people put millions into it
  8. Guest

    Guest Guest

    The sphinx is level 10. The Steed is the final achievement at level 11.

    I know Drachenfels did it, but if you read the thread about it you discover that someone ploughed his entire fortune into it.

    A very altruistic move that I, for one, don't expect anyone, anywhere to match.

    We gave it our best shot, we proved we're a community to be reckoned with in terms of effort and supporting each other. We can be proud of ourselves I think, but now it's time to say 'enough is enough'. We all have our own projects that we've put on hold for this, plus there's the event to look forward to this weekend.

    I've got a big draggie to train and 24671 scales to gather to donate to the library [​IMG]

    Well done all.
  9. Guest

    Guest Guest

    Why does there need to be "all or nothing"? It´s not realistic that we can reach and then keep tier 11 at this rate, unless other people than the boardies get involved. But that doesn´t mean we have to give it up all together. I´ve always had a soft spot for the zoo, but never quite put in the effort to donate before. Usually I dropped of one or two unicorns a week while ggs:ing, but nothing more. This project has really "opened my eyes" and I know that I for one will continue to donate pets to the zoo in quite large numbers even if there isn´t an "official project" going on. Hopefully others feel the same as well, so maybe even if we don´t reach the top and keep it there, we can at least keep the zoo reasonably filled.
  10. Guest

    Guest Guest

    Well, I chose option 1 - I think it can still be done, if we have a big BIG drive some point soon to get it up to max. I like the idea of having a party in there once it's done with loads of screenies just to say 'we did it'!
  11. Kayne

    Kayne Guest

    Initially on reading the first posts i was going to vote No. I started this project rolling and i never wanted it to become a chore or work which i have stated previously. But to then see Ayarablue and Aladaria saying yes it can be done and indeed to keep going i dont want to vote no.

    I will leave this upto the rest of the community as to what happens. I fear that if i push too far on this project then there will be negativity flowing and that is something I dont want.

    Whatever the outcome the Europa community has yet again shown how wonderful it is and for that i thank all of you who have got involved in whatever role you chose.
  12. Guest

    Guest Guest


    Gotta say yes hehe
    but with gold lots of gold *grins*



    *wonders how long they stay*
  13. What?! ... That... you're crazy woman, but that is why we love you!!! [​IMG] [​IMG] *Huge hug for Kiara!!*
  14. BadManiac

    BadManiac Guest

    Afraid I've not been taking part in this yet, mostly due to time issues. But I have to make an observation here.

    "We've been knocking ourselves out for something close to a week now without making any progress."

    I'm sorry but welcome to UO...
    I've been trying to get a heartwood Runic for over two years since ML came out, hundreds of thousands of boards gone, no reward, until very recently.
    I donated bokutos to get folded steel glasses, again, tens of thousands of bokutos, hundreds of trips, and I wasn't even close to my reward. So I bought the damn things.

    Also, I've been using a Reptalon ever sicne ML came out. Yep, no overpowered ridiculously broken Cu-Sidhe for me, and no I still don't have a Greater Dragon.
    I've been trying to get the devs to realize how immensely out of balance Reptalons are for a very long time, yet noone listens.
    (bear with me I have a point)

    This is UO. In UO you have two choices, you either WORK, long, boring monotonous work, for the reward you want, or you script it.
    Complaining that a handful of people had to work for something for a week means you really don't get the point of UO. UO is work, it's simply how it's designed.

    Now, the Community Collections, Heartwood runic chances, and my poor Reptalon are all examples of utterly broken game features.

    And here you are, a whole group of dedicated people who have genuinely tried to play the game the way it was designed, and failed. You're just going to give up because the game mechanics are totally faulty? NO!
    Do what I do for the Reptalon, and what more people should be doing for UO, show these numbers to the devs, post a new post every day, annoy people to no end until the devs realize that their game design is flawed, and fix it.

    UO is a broken game, systems like these were obviously designed to be only available for scripters (what you're telling me you're going to manually recall back and forth between Zento and Britain carrying one hundred thousand Bokutos for a pair of glasses? and ENJOY it?)
    This needs to stop, and noone's gonna do anything unless you guys do.
  15. Guest

    Guest Guest

    *shakes head in wonder*

    What an absolutely fabulous way to totally screw up the poll. You didn't even vote for that option!

    You're amazing.
  16. Guest

    Guest Guest

    *Apologises profusely to Petra for messing up her poll*
  17. Guest

    Guest Guest

    [​IMG] you're forgiven

    Now all we have to do is get those 850 drakes (or equivalent) shipped in to keep it there.

    I'll make a start before our weekly shopping trip, I've got about half an hour.

    Party tonight? 7pm onwards, come as you're able, 'bring cidur', as an Orcish friend of mine on another shard would say.
  18. Guest

    Guest Guest

    Aww a partay and I won't be able to come, Its school hols and spending time with the kids comes first so its monopoly and yatzee for me hehe

    Have a cidur or 3 for me .. make that large ones *hic* *grins*

    Anyways I'm not taking responsibility for the donations for zoo, you lot did the hard work, I just looted a idoc that I believed belonged a scripter (I'm not going to flat out accuse them of scripting as they are not here to say thier side)
    As I don't like scripting, scripters etc and I don't want to gain as a by product of a scripter, I donated the checks I got, to the what I believed was the good of the community.

    Altho it has since been pointed out to me that as I was prepared to donate checks the tamers amongst you will no longer wish to tame for the zoo and I am now solely responsible for keeping the zoo stocked *laughs* .. sorry that aint gonna happen [​IMG]

    Anyways enjoy your party and your silver steed while he lasts

  19. simonovsk

    simonovsk Lore Master
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    Aug 1, 2007
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    I voted too, even tho I only brought about 50 drakes to the zoo since this started.

    Main reason why I think this is turning into a job and is not enjoyable, is of course the decay, altho I'll continue bringing the occasional few drakes when I can.

    Nice job on the silver steed, hope I can go and have a look at it sometime today. Thanks to everyone who participated, I'd never seen an animal in the zoo before [​IMG]
  20. BadManiac

    BadManiac Guest

    So what time tonight (I'm assuming tonight is Friday?) Is the party starting? I'll turn up and do my bit for the community [​IMG] (also, I forgot to vote when I posted my rant last night, sorry. Voted Yes we can do it. But I do think we might need the help of the devs in the long run [​IMG] )
  21. Guest

    Guest Guest

    I suppose there's a poetic irony in that the presumed ill-gotten gains were thrown into one of the biggest gold sinks in the game and thereby taken out of circulation.

    If we could keep it full by donating 10 drakes per day, as Tabby does, I think we would be happy to keep it maintained, but since I doubt if the shard has 85 - 90 tamers able to do that I suggest we just do as much as we can to make sure we don't lose the steed before tonight and then pray that the devs take pity on us.

    Party at the Zoo, any time from 7.00pm onwards.

    I'll be putting my chef to work making souvenirs for the occasion.
  22. simonovsk

    simonovsk Lore Master
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    Aug 1, 2007
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    What a wonderful animal the silver steed is !

    I plan on donating money, when will be the best time for that? The zoo is currently at tier 11 with 12045087 points and 0 points needed for next tier, as I suppose there is no tier 12.

    If we aim at keeping it where it is, and considering the decay rate, when will be the best time to donate? Is there a best time?

  23. Dewi Putri

    Dewi Putri Guest

    Oh dear, we've to work tonight so hope there is still a party left when we get back! If not, enjoy it people, and drink one on it for us! [​IMG] [​IMG]
  24. BadManiac

    BadManiac Guest

    We migth be neede in Moonglow tonight too by the sounds of things. Seeing as they aer about to blow up UO with blackrock...
  25. Guest

    Guest Guest

    wELL DONE!!
    SOMebody was very generous for sure.....

    hope u fight to keep it at lv11 too... and its gonna be a fight...
  26. Kiera_II

    Kiera_II Guest

    I've been away on holiday for a few days and am delighted to come back and see the silver steed. Well done! Shame I missed the party.
  27. Kayne

    Kayne Guest

    You might have missed the party kiera but we saved you a comemorative cake for you to keep.
  28. Alas I think what kiara did was the only reasonable solution given the current system.
    It shows that community collections are a gold sink targeting the wrong players.

    It's sad but I think we can only count on gold donations. Pets will only slow down the decrease. And it shall not become a work.