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(Question) Returning Player Questions

Discussion in 'UO Europa' started by Shakkara, Aug 30, 2010.

  1. Shakkara

    Shakkara Slightly Crazed
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    Jul 27, 2003
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    Seeing the demo with the ships really made me feel itchy to return to UO.

    I was forced to quit a few years ago when the 3D client was discontinued, as both the 2D client as the KR client had atrocious performance and usability problems for me back then. (when I tried to install the new enhanced client, both my gaming computers had hard crashes that forced a reboot on the computer during the update session, since that wasn't a good omen I went to get the classic one instead).


    How is Europa doing nowadays? Since my 18x18 house is gone, I was looking to buy a new one but I didn't see any for sale recently on the sell forum. Has the population dropped so much that 18x18s can now be placed freely?

    What of my characters, my gear must be pretty outdated as my warrior specialized in some HCI/DCI setup and my mage suit never became anything good.

    I should have these skills over various characters, and soulstones to transfer them over:
    115 swords
    110 archery
    100 parry
    85 chivalry
    100 healing
    100 anatomy
    105 tactics
    110 magery
    110 eval int
    110 blacksmithy
    110 tailoring
    100 tinkering
    100 carpentry
    100 mining
    Some lumberjacking
    100 focus
    100 meditation

    I plan to play PVM, is there anything I can salvage off this to make a decent PVM character capable of earning me some income? What kind of gear will I need for this character and how much will that cost me? Current gear is a bit crap, I do have some arties like a rune beetle carapace, samurai helmet, violet courage, stormthingie gloves and even a crimson cincture but not enough for a full suit with max resists. Weapons are some specialized slayers but no good all-round weapons with leech. What weapon style should I go with, 1h + shield, 2h, 2h axe or archer? I kinda like the whirlwind attack on the halberd, axes or radiant scimitar, I imagine that would be awesome with some hit area and mana leech...

    Speaking of money, where can I go hunting or crafting nowadays? Where are the hotspots and what is there to do?

    What should I do with my crafter? I always hated the grind for runics and didn't bother with them, but I read up and found that arms lore and some skills for the new imbuing system are essential nowadays, should I pick them up? How does this imbuing differ from runic items? Is leather armor still king and does metal armor still suck because you can't med in it?
  2. Odin of Europa

    Odin of Europa Lore Master
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    Sep 3, 2002
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    Hi, welcome back :)

    I'm no expert on templates or gear, but some templates that seem to do well are.

    Sampire - samurai in vampire form
    120 Bushido, Wep skill, Parry
    100 Necro, Anatomy, Tactics
    60 Chiv

    Some people have started to swap out the Parry for Spirit Speak, or increased Anatomy, Tactics and Chiv, or added Healing.

    For gear, concentrate on resists (vampire form lowers fire by 25), Defense Chance Increase (45 cap), Hit Point Increase, Stamina Increase, Mana Increase, Swing Speed Increase and Damage Increase. Weapon needs Hit Mana Leech, Hit Stamina Leech and Swing Speed Increase.

    I mainly see people using Diamond Mace, Ornate Axe, Radiant Scimitar, Double Axe, Rune Blade, Daisho and Leafblade for PvM.

    Wammy - samurai in wraith form
    120 Bushido, Wep skill, Parry
    100 Necro, Spirit Speak, Tactics
    60 Chiv

    Again, some people have started to drop Parry, increase Spirit Speak to 120 and add Anatomy.

    Same with gear as the Sampire setup, apart from the drop in fire resist. Weapon really only needs Hit Stamina Leech and Swing Speed Increase, as you'll be leeching mana with being in wraith form.


    120 Magery, Meditation, Evaluating Int, Mysticism, Focus, Spellweaving

    For gear, Resists, Mana Inrease, Hit Point Increase, Spell Damage Increase, Lower Mana Cost (40 cap), Lower Reagent Cost (100), Faster Casting (2 or 4 for spellweaving?), Faster Cast Recovery (6 cap).


    120 Magery, Meditation, Evaluating Int, Necro, Spirit Speak, Spellweaving

    Same as Mage/Mystic/Weaver for gear.


    Some items that are favoured alot are below. Some are easier to get then others.


    Mace and Shield Reading Glasses
    Spirit of the Totem
    Wizard's Crystal Reading Glasses
    Night Eyes
    Brightsight Lenses
    Kasa of the Raj-In
    Hat of the Magi

    Jackal's Collar
    Pendant of the Magi

    Heart of the Lion
    Rune Beetle Carapace
    Basiliks Hide Breastplate
    Ancient Samurai Do
    Armor of Fortune
    Mantle of the Fallen - Gargoyles Only

    Gauntlets of Nobility
    Gloves of the Pugilist
    Gloves of the Sun
    Stitchers Mittens - Elves Only

    Animated Legs of the Insane Tinker
    Legs of Embers
    Fey Legs
    Summoner's Kilt - Gargoyles Only

    Ring of the Vile
    Crystalline Ring

    Alchemists Bauble
    Ornament of the Magician

    Shield of Invulnerability
    Defender of the Magus
    Mystic's Guard - Gargoyles Only

    Weapon Hand
    Scrapper's Compendium
    Tome of Lost Knowledge

    A Primer on Arms
    Totem of the Void
    Frostguard Talisman
    Jade Snake Head

    Ranger's Cloak of Augmentation
    Quiver of Infinity
    Melissa's Cloak
    Shadow Cloak of Rejuventation


    Painted caves - Troglodytes drop 400+ gold each and are vulnerable to Repond slayers.

    The Abyss - Any of the mini champs are good for gold, plus Imbuing ingrediants which you can sell.

    Navrey - A giant spider in the Underworld, loot isn't great, but if your lucky to get a Tangle, you can sell it for 25mill+

    Hope that helps a bit :)
  3. Shakkara

    Shakkara Slightly Crazed
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    Jul 27, 2003
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    Thanks a lot for the info, things havent changed THAT much then and I suppose my current gear is still valid if I can get a proper weapon and necro up.

    How is the housing availability on Europa, for non-fel non-island 18x18s?
  4. Mapper

    Mapper Crazed Zealot
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    Oct 24, 2005
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    I recently placed an 18x18 spot that was on Zento, Theres probably a few spots out there free for sure.
  5. jack flash uk

    jack flash uk Crazed Zealot
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    Oct 21, 2006
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    *Tips Hat*

    i trust this si why you tried to contact me via icq

    pls try again, i will help you with a house spot:)
  6. Shakkara

    Shakkara Slightly Crazed
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    Summary of my first day back into the game.

    I wandered around and encountered a player within the first 5 minutes in the game, near my spot where my house used to be. We ran around a bit together as he was looking for his tower but we didn't manage to find it.

    I told him that I was a returning player, my inventory was totally full of stuff I pulled out of my house before I left the game. The 2D inventory is totally ATROCIOUS, in the 3D client we had these nice big inventory spaces and now everything is totally messed up and I can't find any items as everything is cluttered ontop of everything else. I explained that I really needed a house to offload all my items (planning to put up a wall and dump everything on the ground so I have some space to get everything sorted out and stuffed back into chests and bags).

    Since I only had very limited funds this kind player gave me 300k so I could place a nice big house. I ran around and found some nice spots in the area around Tokuno but they were either rather small or had big buildings blocking the view. Then I ran around Malas, the spot where my house used to be was not taken, surprisingly enough. But I went around looking for better spots. I really noticed the game was so EMPTY compared to 3 years ago. It would seem to me that the population has more than halved, all that house space being up for the grabs was unthinkable only a few years ago.

    I found a very nice location in the Crystal Fens, and a spot right outside Umbra, but eventually opted for a spot right outside the north gate of Luna because the neighbouring building on the Fens location was kinda ugly, and the Umbra location had several annoying vampire bats in the area, which I totally hate. I like to have a stone circle in my backyard, and because of having both mountains for my miner as well as a nearby crystal elemental spawn (they used to have reasonable drops and I might use these to train unravelling?) in the north Luna spot.

    http://evajobse.net/other/pictures/Malas_Houses.gif Marks the location right outside Luna and the location of my old house in the northeast. Definately an improvement.

    The house spot is nice but I still have dreams for a nicer house location with no ugly neighbours. I also want to see Ter Mur and possibly move there once I can meet the requirements for a house there and have cashed in some of my old loot stuff. I definately plan to buy SA soon so I have access to all the new exciting tiles.

    I haven't yet been able to sort my stuff and this is something I will be doing over the next few days. Peeking through my alts and finding an inventory full with Blackrock made me grin. My mage character still hears interesting voices.
  7. Shakkara

    Shakkara Slightly Crazed
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    Day 2

    Had a quick opportunity to start sifting through stuff during my lunchbreak at work. For some reason, the SA client runs at work while it doesn't even install at home, so I could finally see the contents of my backpack and bank. I was shocked to find that my two pack animals on my main character were empty, and likely lost a load of stuff there.

    My relief was great when I found my most dear posessions, which is a set of blessed sashes (royal brit guard, sash of might, friend of the library, lord rouke's sash, AOS gift clothing sash, etc). I really must get myself a lieutenant sash once I have money scraped together!

    I also found even more blackrock, and some nice oldschool stuff such as Blackmoor, Executioner Caps and other strange items. Also an Ophidian journal, Power/Mystic bardiches and snake skins. I really enjoyed the Ophidian event back in the days.

    Every character seems to be loaded full on heritage tokens and I think I have at least a dozen of those, where did all of those come from and are they worth anything? Also found a character transfer token which is probably the first thing I'll sell to get my outfit up to date. My paladin is not in THAT a bad shape I realize, I remember thinking that all my gold would likely be worthless if I would ever return to UO, and spent it all on gear such as a mace and shield glasses and some rares before I quit. A huge diamond was found between the belongings which I think is pretty and shiny. I should really sell the char transfer ASAP, get the SA house tiles, and start building a pretty house. But before I can do anything, I need to get these items sorted, grr. While I'm glad I didn't leave my best stuff to decay with my house, it certainly complicates things.
  8. Samedhi

    Samedhi Guest

    Hi, Welcome back :thumbup1:

    Always good to see more vets coming back!

    I also was in the same situation as yourself a couple of months ago :)

    There`s probably been a lot of changes since you were last active but at
    least the boards here will give you a good knowledge about them.

    I`ve found the most irritating thing is having to adapt and retrain old char templates..I`d forgotten what a drag it was :(

    Have fun!
  9. R Traveler

    R Traveler Crazed Zealot
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    Jul 15, 2005
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    Lucky you! We don't hear anything for year since some publish.
  10. Shakkara

    Shakkara Slightly Crazed
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    Jul 27, 2003
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    I found another oddity, I have a soulstone and a soulstone fragment where I put 96 archery and 101 parry in. But it says that the owner is 'unknown'. I could use the soulstone on my character, but didn't.

    What's up with that?
  11. Aurelius

    Aurelius Babbling Loonie
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    Feb 26, 2004
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    They modified soulstones so they carried the name of the last character that used them, but if they were last used before that patch, they'll likely say their owner is 'unknown'.
  12. Serafi

    Serafi Babbling Loonie
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    Feb 26, 2004
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    Just try doubleclicking the soulstone with any character on your account. If its the right account you will be able to use it.

    And welcome back!