Having come back to UO recently my wife and i have spent most of our time training up skills to have playable characters. The only ones that are playable really atm are our tamers and mages, although both have very crap gear. So, yesturday we decided to have our first look in the stygian abyss and we took our tamers through the tomb of kings quests and entered SA. The first thing we run into was lava elementals and fire demons. As usual we send in the pets (cu sidhes) and follow up to vet. A couple of target-switching demons later we are ghosts and the demons rip our cu sidhes apart. Unfortunately my pets ghost wanders off further into the mobs and the only way to get it back is to run into the middle of the mobs and call it. A few more deaths later we're both ready to have another go. We send in the pets again against two demons that have followed us away from the elemental spawn...and not being able to vet, and neither of us being mages, we watch the demons kill our pets again. A usual the pets ignore us when we try to call them back (both 360tamers)... By now we're both sick of seeing our pets die and decide to have a look around SA with our mages instead. Hours later... No deaths, tons of kills, lots of loot. (Those ratmen spawn way too fast! But nothing a mage can't handle.) Eventually i just logoff because i'm annoyed that my tamer (my favourite character) cannot do something that a mage can do with ease. I hate mages. The only reason i have one is because i used to use him to mark runes for runebooks...And now he's my most powerful character! So....no idea why i'm writing this really. Just ranting i guess as i'm sick of all the idiot "tamers are overpowered" posts. Is there any point in Vet if we can't get near our pets because of target-switchers, and lots of fast respawning mobs?