Does the SA Client and / or any of its initiators use Java for something? If the following is NOT in the client then there is a very long delay involved. This morning I was using the SA Client to do my daily rounds of Cu and Greater Dragons (Tram, Fel, Ilsh) to see if there was anything worth taming. Well after checking the Cu's and killing some Changelings, Ilsh Greater Dragons, Trammel Destard and Fire Temple GD's, I went to Destard on the Felucca side about 3/4 of the way to the room adjacent to the Water Elementals, the Client just froze with a pair of Greater Dragons within 6 squares of me. Being a Stealth Tamer I was not all that concerned. I needed to do the ctrl+alt+del to get a Task manger to cancel the client. What I noticed when it was all said and done was this Java was active and there was a screen asking me to continue/allow things to continue even though the sites revocation credentials were not up to date (the preceding is the jest of the message not a verbatim quote), giving an Ok and Cancel button. I chose Cancel. Restarted the SA Client and finished. I have most certainly ran the client longer than this before so ..... What is ... curious is the association between the Client freezing and the Credentials message.