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Shadowguard solo problems

Discussion in 'UO Warrior' started by Heimi, Mar 14, 2017.

  1. Heimi

    Heimi Babbling Loonie
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    Hi all, so I just returned to the game recently and after watching a bunch of videos and reading threads about soloing Shadowguard on a sampire I figured I'd give it a try. Well...I failed completely, multiple times even. Was I just unlucky or is this a problem with my suit?

    Using a standard sampire temp:

    120 Bushido
    120 Swords
    120 Tactics
    100 Necro
    100 Anat
    80 Chiv
    80 Parry

    Weapons: Double Axes and Bladed Staffs - AI for Ozymandias, Anon and Virtuebane (do I need AI for Virtuebane?) then DS for Juonar and WW for spawn.

    Which enemies should I be casting EoO against?

    The first issue is that some enemies seem almost impossible for me to hit, even with 50 HLD on my weapon. No hits means no leeches means no specials means I'm dead. Is there any way around this besides changing my suit to incorporate M&S glasses? I have 45 HCI

    The second issue which is somewhat related to the first is that I'm getting screwed whenever spawn appears, usually when fighting one of the aforementioned hard-to-hit enemies as I can't set off WW. Is there a macro I can set up in the CC to switch target to one of the other enemies quickly?

    I should also mention that I'm using the Conjuror's Trinket as part of my suit as I can't afford/find Cameos on my shard. Is this working against me when I fight Ozy and Anon?
     
  2. Fwoosh

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    Anon has ~220 wrestling so that is one of the reasons he's hard to hit and from what I've seen I'd assume Ozy either has a similarly high wrestling skill or has a very high parry skill. Virtuebane it is better to just use a 100% Cold ele demon DA for DS. I would also suggest not using EoO on any boss on the roof. Since when adds spawn up they will all be doing more damage to you and if you put EoO on an add type then the boss will hit you like a truck ( except for Anon and Ozy).
     
  3. Akiho

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    I've tried so many combinations to do it solo (purely from an experimental pov) and failed every time.

    What I found was that Ozy and Anon were very easy to dispatch with a Disco/Tamer albeit a little time consuming. Virtue switched targets too often and Juo teleported and switched/aoe too often to be effective.

    On the flip side, Virtue and Juo were relatively simple for a sampire but the hit rate on Ozy and Anon is so ridiculously low (even when discorded, yes I tried a bastardised bard/sampire) you get outgunned.

    I have however managed to kill all 4 with a Sampire,Parry,Heal combo just never on the same run. Healing fills the no hit/no leech issue but RnG/adds screw up each attempt.

    I'm not saying it should be soloable but those were my findings after many, many attempts.

    Just not worth the hassle, bring a friend!!
     
  4. Akiho

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    Additionaly, and I may be wrong, the incredibly easy looking solo sampire video that i think everyone has seen was either incredibly lucky or something (weapon skill/hit rate) was changed at some stage as the hit rate is barely possible even on a discorded target now.

    Happy to be proved wrong of course!
     
  5. Lord Frodo

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    @Akiho Could that video been done on a NON EA/BS/UO Shard?
     
  6. Akiho

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    I'm pretty sure it was done on official servers. He's a Japanese player called 'a bear corpse' Now I will add the guy who's video I'm assuming is very good at what he does but his video barely misses a swing at Anon and Ozy. He has posted on these forums before and i have a great respect for him. His ingenuity is remarkable in some cases (see Lady Melisande solo, I've tried it and it works).

    Given that 45% is the HCI cap, less lightning strike at 50% which he does not use, I have discorded both Anon and Ozy and I still cant hit as much as he does in his video.

    If he is playing a private server, and I don't think he does, my feelings would be hurt!
     
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  7. Akiho

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    To be clear, I've killed all 4 with the following template:

    80 Anatomy
    100 Bushido
    100 Necro
    100 Healing
    100 Tactics
    120 Parry
    120 Swords

    No resist is a gamble on Virtue and Juo'nar.
    Depending on luck, you can literally off screen summons and kill either before you rotate the whole room.

    Parry and healing are invaluable against Anon and Ozy as you just cant hit the f*ckers, adds are fairly trivial. Ozys are non magical and can be single targetted. A good repond slayer whirlwind weap deals with the adds on Anon pretty easily.

    The problem lies in RNG, you can easily be overwhelmed with adds, casters being the worst in my opinion.

    The 2 that dismount are Ozy and Virtue. You can do Ozy dismounted for the whole fight as he hits like a girl, Virtue is another story.

    Starting Virtue dismounted is a gamble (ie. Mounting and off screening when adds spawn) as he often just one hits your pet.

    The whole thing is very possible but in my opinion, luck is a huge factor.
     
  8. King Greg

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    It was on official servers, they changed the skills on the bosses shortly after that video was released.
     
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  9. Swordsman

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    Even I brought one friend in, the boss fight is not fun. We got a dragoon and a Paladin for cross healing. If we do not cast EOO, the damage to the boss is slittle that both of us felt it is a boring long grind. If we cast EOO, the spawns may kill one of us. Another problem is the boss got hyper speed, we can't run away to heal. They chase me closely to do spell damage.
     
  10. CorwinXX

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    Here are my two dexxers thad did it solo relatively easy:

    1. Dragoon
    Swordsmanship 120
    Tactics 120
    Bushido 120
    Parrying 60
    Chivalry 95
    Anatomy 120
    Resisting Spells 100
    75/75/70/71/80 ,
    45 hci, 29 dci, 20 ssi,
    4 hpr, 0 mr, 0/0 casting

    2. Paladin
    Mace Fighting 120
    Tactics 120
    Bushido 80
    Chivalry 120
    Anatomy 120
    Healing 94
    Resisting Spells 100
    75/75/68/69/80,
    45 hci, 29 dci, 35 ssi (with DF)
    4 hpr, 8 mr, 3/6 casting (must be 4/6 casting... need better jewels)

    The first has very old suit that is not counted as a good nowdays.
    The second has no suit at all. I just combined some armor pieces I had in my chests.

    "Relatively easy" means probably about 90% chance to kill a roof boss solo without dying. With a help of a smart bard this chance is about 100%.
     
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  11. CorwinXX

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    Cast off EOO when a spawn appears. You need 95 Chivalry to do it without fails.
     
  12. Tabin

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    I run 60 parry, 100 chiv on my sampire. You can see screen shots of my solo run here: Warrior Challenge: Solo Roof
    Corwin is correct. You need to turn off EOO when it spawns and you need to do it without failing.

    Ozy: AI bladed staff. EOO and honor. HLD is a must. Switch to Dble axe with demon slayer or dragon slayer for the spawn. Demon cameo helps to get 300% bonus dmg.
    Juonar: Dble axe with Fire dmg. Undead Slayer + Undead Cameo to get max damage. Or just Undead slayer and honor. Do not use EOO. Skeleton dragons kill to fast. Swap to Dble axe dragon slayer against the skele dragons.
    Anon: Al bladed staff. Bring two different elemental. Elemental slayer and HLD is a must. EOO is on to get max damage. Honor helps against human form. Turn off EOO when spawn hits. Cold dmg Repond slayer Dble axe and repond slayer cameo for spawn.
    Virtubane: No slayer weakness. Use cold dmg dble axe (with demon slayer for spawn). Switch to identical dble axe with repond slayer if there are more Titans than Wolves. Wear either demon or repond slayer cameo for the entire fight.

    Having the set of cameos help a lot. It is still doable without, just harder. =(

    The rest is all skill and strategy. Run when you need to. Take advantage of the fact that spawn runs slower than boss. Make a loop, kill spawn, go back to fighting boss. Bring invis potions, pet res, all +str/dex/heal pots. Always keep +str potion up for max HP. I like using balanced weapons to drink pots as needed but you miss out on the Bushido block bonus.

    Get off mount for Virtubane and Ozy. Make a macro and insta-speed mount when you need to run.

    For Anon and Ozy, missing is a problem. 50% HLD is good although I run that + Mace n Shield. The HLD isn't additive so its not as good as it sounds. Just drink potions to stay a live and keep your stamina up. When spawn occurs, I always step back, target nearest, then WW. As you already know, when you try to WW with Ozy/Anon targeted, you'll miss and die.

    Finally, its takes practice! First time I did roof, it was with one other tamer. Kept running it with experienced tamers until finally I ran it with a roof-noob-tamer. When I completed that, then I ran it with another sampire. After that, I realized I could probably solo it.

    Good luck!
     
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  13. Akiho

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    How do you even heal with a temp like that? Genuine question, Bushido confidence is unreliable and Chiv, especually at 0/0 is even more unreliable. Without active healing components I cant see how you could survive any boss, even if you did have HLL on a weapon, it heals for so little it's a drop in the ocean of your health.

    Again, Luck seems to be everyones friend.
     
  14. Heimi

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    I'm two Minax artifacts away from the Blackthorn M&S, even if it isn't additive 50% HLD just doesn't seem to be cutting it for me. I was ready to give up after hearing the bosses had been buffed but now I'm eager to give it another shot - although my next big stumbling block is the lack of talisman options.
     
  15. Tabin

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    If you're on a budget, you can get the Conjurer's trinket instead of a cameo. I actually use that trinket most of the time because it doesn't have durability loss. Make sure to get 5% SSI town bonus though. Conjurer's trinket does need to be paired with another trinket for fights against reponds. Ideally, a repond cameo. >_< You can skip on the demon slayer cameo. It's just a "nice to have" against Ozy's spawn.
     
  16. BeaIank

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    You don't need the cameos to solo this encounter with a sampire, but the fight with Anon will suck a LOT if you have high ping and can't dismiss EoO fast enough when his spawn show up.
     
  17. BearCorpse

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    I made solo vid again, because I'm not good at explaining in English.My template is at 28:00 in video.
    I tried various methods against Ozy. So I feel good this way. -->
    Keeping activate confidence for healing when I parry. Spamming AI. Off EoO when spawned. Switching Weapon(demon or dragon slayer) when spawned.
    CA gives just extra swinging, Confidence gives surely heal (but small).

    You should not equip Conjurer's trinket against Anon and Bane, they have reponds spawn.
    And I don't think the bosses buffed.Of curse I'm playing official ultima online shard, you can meet me anytime I payed in Hokuto.

     
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  18. BeaIank

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    I just love how quick Juo'nar drops.
    But yeah, I don't think they have changed the skills either. I remember Bear missing a lot against Anon and Ozy on his previous video as well.
    To make things a bit easier, you can bring a long a 4x120 bard to disco them and to run either peace or provo songs.

    Thanks to my ping, I prefer to use tamers there, because I lag out a lot due to lots of dynamic objects in those rooms. So by the time I see the boss spawn, I am already seeing grey or on the verge of seeing grey on my dexxer.
     
  19. CorwinXX

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    Juo'nar is fast and easy. I leach enough so I needn't other ways of healing. I don't use EOO against it so I don't worry much about single spawn. With 100 RS undead spells are not so harmful.
    Virtuebane is easy but dangerous. I leach a lot but sometimes there are situations when I need ride away to heal (I fight unmounted).
    Ozy hits very light. I could stand all day doing nothing except casting Confidence from time to time. I fight mounted but sometimes I tab out to peace mode when it dismount me to don't produce spawn while dismounted. Hiryes hit very hard so it's important to cast off EEO immediately and switch to a dragon slayer double axe. I prefer to use AI against Ozy - about the same damage as DS but two times less spawns.
    Anon is annoying too. Sometimes I even don't cast off EEO on spawns but sometimes I need ride away to heal. I use AI against Anon when it's in human form.
     
  20. Heimi

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    Soloed the Roof last night :) I used Corpse's suit/build, took 30ish minutes and died a couple times to Juo'nar (took a second account to res).

    Link to my suit if anyone's interested: Sampire Suit
     
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    Great suit, I don't have legendary armors, where do you get the legendary armors ?
     
  22. DJAd

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    From the bosses on the roof!
     
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  23. BeaIank

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    Or from Exodus and the Turtle spawn too.
     
  24. Heimi

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    Bought them from the Trader's Hall and VS, cost ~10m for the two legendaries.