replying to the thread last night when I had the chance. <blockquote><hr> You talk as if the 'no discussing mod actions' applies only to Siege. It doesn't, it applies across the board. Mods shouldn't be allowed to post? [/ QUOTE ] Ok... so you brought up the paradox I highlighted. Since none of you Kelmo/Mod sympathizers could figure it out... here's how it goes down. As a mod, if you want to post and be a part of the community by giving your opinion on matters, injecting your bias (because yes, you do have bias towards people you know... it's even admitted in the post when the ramifications of having a non-biased unaffiliated mod involved was described) Then expect people to discuss your actions on this forum. If you want to not post and stick to straight moderating... then yes, we should all shut up and let you do your job without any respite. However, if you're going to post, give your opinions, try and wave the Siege flag on this forum or others (like kelmo does when issues are brought up to the Devs) you are one of us... and therefore subject to the same ridicule, scrutiny of your behavior, so on and so on that ALL of us are subject to. You cannot pick and choose what RoC rules you feel like following so long as it suits you... I'm sorry hun but, things don't work that way. Nope, no way no how... it's not going to happen. Either you moderate without bias on the sidelines out of the picture... or you accept that this rule is going to bend just like many others do here because of the precarious situation this forum is governed under. So, like I said... you can't have your cake and eat it too just like the rest of us can't and if it is a wish to be among us in this community, then you have to accept the fact that you will be judged the same as we all are. If I do things the community doesn't appreciate... are you telling me they have no right to let me know publicly?!?!? Or do you think just because you get a shiny little badge next to your name it somehow graduates you into someone special free from reprieve? Well then give me a badge so I can do what I want without a word to the wiser too... and while your at it... hand them out to everyone else too! Again... no hun, it's not going to happen. For example: Orvago isn't a member of this community... he doesn't post here and we don't even like him to (and he even knows we don't want him here!) So when he steps in... unless his actions are completely unreasonable, theres not a damn thing we can say about it... because he's not a part of this community. So AGAIN, either follow his lead and moderate from the sidelines in solace or face the fact that you will from time to time need to justify yourself to this community... as a member of it. Just like I and everyone else has at one point or another. ~BR PS. Since this is a discussion aimed at building community... it's more appropriate for the public to discuss this, rather than your suggestion to discuss it privately.