After hearing folks rage about the effectiveness of the sampire template I went out and built myself one. After putting in a fair amount of time playing it I've come to the conclusion that one of two things is the case - either I'm missing something or folks are talking it up significantly beyond it's abilities. I'm inclined to think I'm missing something. I see the usefulness of vampire form to any warrior - life leech, immunity to most poisons, and the other benefits are extremely useful. The samurai portion of the template doesn't seem to be giving the benefits I'd want out of 100-120 skill points. Lightning strike is useful, but doesn't strike me as a "must have" after using it extensively. Spamming it every strike is a significant drain on one's mana. Evasion... sounds useful, but seems to fall flat whenever I use it. I burn mana but still get the snot beaten out of me. The five percent parry bonus with a two-handed weapon is a decent benefit, but it takes the place of another item slot and/or the ability to drink potions. Perfection... seems to add little to no damage in battle. I'm getting the "you have gained perfection"/"you have Achieved Perfection" messages, but the damage isn't going up. I don't *think* I have enough DI on my gear without it to put me at or over the cap. I could very well be wrong, however. In short, I find myself wondering how this use of skill points is superior to say... maxing out tactics and enjoying a damage bonus every swing, another item slot to shore up your resists or other mods, and cheaper special moves. What am I missing with this template that is touted as the premiere PvM template out there? For reference, the template and gear I'm using is as follows: 120 mace fighting 110 parry 110 bushido 110 anatomy 100 healing 54 necromancy 85 chivalry remainder in tactics Gear is: Stormgrip Brightsight lenses Violet Courage Fey Leggings Gorget and sleeves are high-resist crafted armor Ring/bracelet devoted to stat bonuses and DCI Thanks in advance for your replies. -E.R.