Thanks for the help iv recieved. I plan to finish the house this weekend, as iv been super busy with work. Now I need to work out the various "rank" systems, looking for some advice via ICQ with a person experienced with running a guild with a rank structure. I'm basicly thinking 3 ranks, first rank is for newbies, access to basic gear. second rank is for intermediate, access to some other gear third rank access to the best stuff, along with like a graduation present. Any ideas would be great, I really liked the L5R system of using animals to donate certain templates, though I dont want to do a oriental theme.