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Virtues? I know they are still beig completed but a minor Tweak would be nice.

Discussion in 'UHall' started by weins201, Aug 9, 2011.


Should the Virtues that Consume their DOTs on use passively Decay?

  1. No since they are used up, when the virtue activated they should not Passively Decay

    17 vote(s)
  2. Yeah leave them as is, they were not designed to be EASY

    6 vote(s)
  3. hes off his rocker on pain meds bad idea LoL

    2 vote(s)
  1. weins201

    weins201 Certifiable
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    May 14, 2008
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    I would like to see the Passive Decay of the Skills that Actually use a DOT ot Level when used turned off.

    Looking at Specifically Sacrifice - which allows for ressing so many times a day; and Honor which allows (myself) to Tame Agro pets.

    In sacrifice I have to basically hit GL over and Over to get to Knight of Sacrifice allowing me to self res a few times a day with kool off anf others when I actualy use the Virtue, if NOT used it still decays forcing me to farm up to GL again for max benifit of a sacrifice. I would be REALLY nice to not have to worry about losing Sacrifice just because i am successful in many days of hunting or just cannot play for some time.

    In Honor I use it to tame Agro pets by honoring myself and with knight have a Descent amount of time while the critters will ignore me. This caosts me one dot of honor each time I honor myself. Again I should not have to farm back up to knoght of honor just because i either didn't use it or wasnt able to play. AND I know i will get flamed for honoring on a tamer but it take me approx 12 Ballarons in fel to get 1 (ONE) dot in honor. Know i know there are people that say Sucubis but according to the way it is Supposed to work Balllies and Sucubi should give = Fame/Karma and in fel the "Fel Boost"

    So again I am asking if you all think it would be nice to have these Virtues that actually USE their DOTs to not have them passivly decay?
  2. Petra Fyde

    Petra Fyde Peerless Chatterbox
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    Jan 5, 2001
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    I wish! Knight of Sacrifice allows 3 rezes per WEEK.
  3. Kylie Kinslayer

    Kylie Kinslayer Grand Poobah
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    Feb 12, 2005
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    Yeah, I always felt 3x's a week was a little lax for the length of time it takes to actually work to Knighthood.

    Glad to see they are completing the rest of the Virtues. I forget which one a few years ago claimed to have an added damage bonus attached to it, but was never active. Hopefully when they complete them that virtue still gives a damage bonus.
  4. unified

    unified Guest

    This is definitely a necessary tweak.

    In addition, we really need to know the number of points earned/lost since the dots cannot be measured at this point (pun intended). Also, what is the amouint of time for Honor? Last I checked "a limited amount of time" is not on a clock. In other words, please get rid of all this vagueness.
  5. Barry Gibb

    Barry Gibb Of Saintly Patience
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    May 24, 2008
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    Sacrifice, at knight level, allows you to self ressurect up to 3 time per week (not per day). The self ressurection allows you to relocate to a safer are and recover all of your belongings. The very minor decay rate it has is a small price to pay for this utility. Once you reach Knight, the upkeep on the that status is easy, especially if you are successful in many days of hunting (since you will be regaining your fame). You just have to remember to sacrifice your fame every day (I use a rune marked to the demon spawn in the maze, just for that).

    Honor only decays when used, not over time. It makes sence that you would need to work it back up. The reason people suggest using Succubi over Balrons (to gain Honor with a tamer), is that they are much quicker to defeat. A quick comparrison of the two shows the Succubus has roughly 50% of the Hit points and 10% less Wrestling and Tactics as the Balron (roughly equivalent for resists). A well trained Cu Sidhe will quickly chew through Succubi with little need for help.

    Stayin Alive,

  6. Sevin0oo0

    Sevin0oo0 Guest

    Sacrifice - I feel it should consume dots on usage (1 rez per row of dots), is this Not how honor works? Once used up, rebuild your f/k instead of waiting until the next 'who knows when reset day'. I use this, and have for a long time, I feel that would be informative, and fair; you'll always know where you stand.
    And alter the wording for the levels, it's confusing, and maybe show all the dots on one page, so you can see at a glance exactly what's needed. - or self menu item to go with f/k, loyality, etc. ?

    i voted no
  7. Raptor85

    Raptor85 Certifiable
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    Jul 23, 2007
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    For those who are still unaware of this super easy way to build it up here, I'll make a small comparison here :)

    HP: 650
    lowest Resist: 50 (energy)
    avg resist: 74
    AVG Damage: 107-155
    wrestle: 100
    magery: 100
    Fame Level: 5

    HP: 320
    lowest Resist: 50 (cold)
    avg resist: 68
    AVG Damage: 57-94
    wrestle: 90
    magery: 100
    Fame Level: 5

    Gray Goblin
    HP: 180
    lowest Resist: 12 (poison)
    avg resist: 28.2
    AVG Damage: 5-7
    wrestle: 106
    magery: 0
    Fame Level: 5

    Also, if you go grab the goblin slayer tali quest reward, you can one hit the goblins, the spots they spawn in they spawn pretty much endlessly too, it's easiest at the mini-champ spawn though, as on most shards there's a house teleporter right next to it and you only have to deal with a few of the mages (the renowned are pushovers too, nothing to worry about at this one, they're only slightly stronger than the normal goblins). While the actual fame they give is 9000 less than a balron (balrons give a whopping 24000 fame, these guys "only" give 15k per) you can kill these guys so unbelievably fast that you can make lord from 0 in just a few minutes (it's incredibly easy on a bush dexxer w/ whirlwind wep also, you can get surrounded and nearly instantly gain 5k fame :D ). Oh, and if you do it at the mini champ, you get TONS of essence of control & goblin blood (for imbueing SSI and repond slayer, so both highly needed) and guaranteed rare gems + a fairly good arty chance off the renowned.

    In short, if you're working honor or sacrifice, these goblins are the way to go, the fame is only slightly less so they count almost as much, but you can plow through them like they're nothing, so you can kill them 100x faster.