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What drew my attention - UOHOC

Discussion in 'UHall' started by Violence, Jun 4, 2010.

  1. Cear Dallben Dragon

    Cear Dallben Dragon Babbling Loonie
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    Link me in PM, i don't believe this.
     
  2. Llewen

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    Ya, I did the old Google and didn't find anything. And I checked the forums of "The-Program-Which-Shall-Not-Be-Named" and I didn't find any mention of it there either. My guess is this is just another example of LC's campaign to spread misinformation and confusion when it comes to this issue...
     
  3. MalagAste

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    Sadly I professed the old 2d client better all the time.... Now with a new PC I've had to rethink that.

    I find in the new EC I move a whole lot faster and smother... Chasing and running are far faster...

    Target next enemy works VERY good no more trying to pull a bar... Just hit the button and BAM.... I'm on it.

    Setting up macro's is 1000 times easier in the EC...

    Decide you don't really like that macro .... change it in the blink of an eye...

    I use the G13 pad from logitech.... and switching out key settings is so simple I have one set-up for all my characters... no more making a whole new macro template for each and every character one setting works for all of them. Starting a whole new character has never been easier for me.

    Granted there are a few things that I still find irritating about the EC... they are becoming fewer and further between with every patch.

    They have finally licked the perpetual blinking of items which used to drive me bats. So things are looking up.

    Once they return to me my KR housing menu and I can actually co-own all my characters to all my homes again.... and they redo the male paperdoll so my character doesn't look god awful I'll be super happy.
     
  4. Llewen

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    I highly recommend taking the trouble to learn how to move using the thumb joystick. That frees up your mouse to use hotbars without having to stop. It's nothing short of revolutionary. Movement with the thumb joystick is twitchy, and it takes some getting used to, but it is worth the trouble.

    Just make sure that none of your macros are bound to ctrl-shift combinations. That key combination together with cursor key movement (which is what the thumb joystick needs to be bound to) causes a lot of odd problems, including slipping in and out of mouse follow movement, and my personal favourite, running in a straight line with the only ways to stop being running into an object you can't get around, or logging off.
     
  5. Llewen

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    You can switch elements of the macro around, and add and delete elements, as easy as a click and drag. The only thing you can't do with EC macros that you can do with UOA is record menu choices. But for some reason I don't seem to miss that at all. The new(ish) crafting menu choices take care of most of that.
     
  6. The only person posting misinformation remains you.
     
  7. Llewen

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    Whatever, anyone who has used both clients knows that acquiring targets in the EC is easier and faster. I may have confused some of the details. Feel free to shoot me, I'm human, but the core of what I was saying is true.

    But quite frankly I could care less whether you believe me or not because trust me, the feelings are mutual. I'll have the advantage if we ever meet on the battlefield because of the client I use, and that is fine by me (and no this isn't about epeen, you may still whip my butt, and that also, is completely irrelevant and meaningless).

    "Dear GOD" "I can't believe in you..." ;)
     
  8. kelmo

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    Peace, my UO friends...
     
  9. I've used both and know that its the same in both.

    No, you just lied to put down a client you don't understand how to use.

    No you won't. We've already established you don't know what 2d is capable of.

    If its irrelevant and meaningless then why post it. You're the only person who thinks targeting first = win.
     
  10. Konge

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    You're starting to sound like a noble LC. Please don't. I like the the EC, I'd love to play it. I don't wanna buy a new graphics card to be able to run it without a lag/freeze/discon fest. I also don't like a good portion of the new art. Not about comfort or nastalgia, I just think some items/creatures look terrible. Others look better. I love how swamp dragons used to look, when unarmored with their huge wings. I felt bad ass. I bought a swampy ethy just for that look. Then they changed all to have the armored look and I was very upset.
     
  11. Stupid Miner

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    Hm, for reference purposes, how does acquiring targets work in the EC? I haven't used it in a while now.

    It's really not too bad for the CC:

    Select: Nearest/Next/Previous : Hostile/Party/Mobile/Object/Follower
    Attack Selected Target
    Use Selected Target
    Current Target - (for casting spells on the current target)
     
  12. Llewen

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    Click on the mob's bar in the new mobiles display (although I've had it for a while in Lucis Interface). That's it. And they appear in the mobiles display as soon as they are in viewing range, which happens to be before they actually appear on screen.

    It is easier and faster than it is in the CC. I don't even have to have any targeting options bound to any key if I don't want to, although I do have hostile mobiles bound to my mouse wheel so I can scroll through them that way if I want.

    Well at least I sound noble, that's a plus... ;)

    Perhaps you need to look in the mirror before you call someone a liar. I never said "targeting first = win", in fact, I clearly said you personally may still "whip my butt" even if I did target you first. All I said was that it gives an advantage, and I probably have won some pvp battles as a result of that.

    And if you are trying to say that targeting first doesn't give you an advantage, however small it may be, you are starting to use the LC tactic which would be to, in the face of unavoidable logic, baldly state the opposite, maybe someone will believe you...
     
  13. You brought up field fighting, you brought up the targeting first as an advantage, then *bafflingly* tell me that it would be irrelevant if I still won, as though you thought I'd said those things to you. I already told you earlier in this thread of nonsense (largely yours) that targeting first doesn't matter to the extent you seem to think it does.

    Tactics are for battles. Explaining why you were wrong is no battle.

    You've claimed time and again here and other places that the EC has clear advantages over 2d yet are unable to produce any and instead back up your claims with misinformation. (Which you then accuse others of.)
     
  14. Llewen

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    And you either can't read, or you are a liar. You choose. Again, you've accused me of lying, I suggest you check what you are posting before you make those accusations. Those are just some of the "clear advantages" that I seem to be "unable to produce". There are many more.

    Feel free to make yourself look like an idiot and argue about them if you wish. Perhaps you'd like to tell me that you can't resize the game viewing area in the enhanced client any more than you can in the classic client? Let's see, pretty much infinitely resizable vs. what is it, three desktop resolutions and two game play window resolutions?

    edit: How silly of me. I wasn't aware there were third party cheats that allow you to resize the classic client window. I guess you learn something every day.

    Or perhaps you'd like to tell me that there are legal UI mods available for the classic client, while there are none for the enhanced client? That's another obvious one I'm sure you could pick a fight about. Why bother with the facts? Please, make something up. You seem to be doing a good job so far.

    As for the other assertions, I can support them as well, although they aren't quite as obvious, and I'm sure you could write a few pages attempting to refute them if you like. You'd be wrong, but that hasn't stopped you so far.

    For me, I'm pretty much done with this thread. I have no further interest in making you look worse than you've already made yourself look... GOD... ;)

    Feel free to have the last word, and please don't disappoint me, make it a real zinger...
     
  15. No it isn't.

    ...Than it used to be, but not than 2d.

    So can 2d.

    Provides no benefit to gameplay compared to 2d, and even if it did most people want to play UO not build it.

    No it isn't.

    Finally. Yes it does.

    Thats because you did. You said you knew both clients extensively then explained how you didn't.

    Most of them aren't clear or advantages.

    Then name them.

    So what? You could have it on a 40ft screen it doesn't change the range of your attacks or spells.

    You seem to now be making up a conversation with yourself.

    While you can add custom UI's to the EC it provides no actual benefit to gameplay.

    The facts that are clearest from this thread are that you like to lie about your knowledge of 2d to try and put it down and promote the EC, that you can't follow whats being discussed, and that despite nearly all of the people in the thread disagreeing with you you're unable to handle that disagreement without resorting to off topic name calling and other trolls.

    Then do so, stop saying its 'better' and give some actual reasons HOW. You've managed 1 so far and its hardly game changing.

    Again, applies more to you than me.

    Apart from that sentance making no sense (you 'made me make myself look'...?), and showing yourself to have 2 childish agenda, the only thing you've done in this thread is lie and show your ignorance about the 2d client.
     
  16. Llewen

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    Well, seeing as I am once again being called a liar, by a liar, I will respond one last time.

    I played on the classic client for over six years. I'd call that "extensive experience". It may have been a few years ago, and my memory may be a bit fuzzy on some specifics, but my experience with the classic client is still "extensive".

    And if you are going to accuse someone of not making sense, you might want to learn how to spell first. And then you might want to improve your reading skills. That sentence made perfect sense. Take some time, figure it out...

    As for the rest of it, I'll save you some trouble,

    Did too!
    Did not!
    Did too!
    Did not!
    Moooommmmyyy!!!

    That was where that was going, so I just saved us all some time.

    I just have one last remark. You are right about one thing. I was being naive. I was making the assumption we weren't talking about cheats. If you are prepared to cheat, it is true, there is nothing that the enhanced client can do that the classic client can't do better. You win on that point.

    When I play the game I don't cheat, so for me the enhanced client has many clear advantages over the classic client. But I realize that that isn't the way it is for many who use the classic client...
     
  17. Not if you didn't know how to use it it isn't.

    Again you skip the 'many more' advantages it has in favour of trolling.

    You misunderstand (again), I understood what you meant, but what you wrote was literary gibberish. Unlike what I wrote which was a spelling mistake.

    I didn't make any such point, again you're making up a conversation that isn't there.

    Neither do I.

    Because you don't know how to use 2d it has advantages, none of them particularly advantageous, auto directing around obstances doesn't mean you pass through them, its still the same amount of tiles and turns so the gameplay difference is still nil.

    Its a shame you don't realise that the majority of people in this thread disagreed with all of your opinions on the classic client. Now majorities aren't necessarily right but it at least shows what they think of your tar them all with the same brush mentality.