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Discussion in 'UO Siege Perilous' started by Wolf01, Apr 26, 2011.
Just curious what the population currently is like here ?
its low but that shouldnt stop you we are a growing community
Lots of housing space for your new home!
15 people who arnt afk at any given time. maybe 30 more afk scripting and what not.
unfortunily siege died = (
Seige has been neglected by the Devs ever since UO:R came out. [that why i stopped playing it] someone should bring it up in UHall
Regardless of what negativity non-playing posters like to inject into the thread, you can always see for yourself by trying Siege for a month.
Join the NEW guild, stay for a month, if its not what you wanted then at least you visited for awhile
You get a badge from Jamie Oliver saying:
Ive Tried Siege Perilous !
after three month you get a new bronze badge:
Ive Tried Siege Perilous and Survived !
The Devs changed RoT so that skills are easy and quick to gain.
Siege would do a lot better if fewer people who don't play it weren't so very keen to tell everyone who might try it not to bother because it's dead.
What is the RoT like now?
I've considered playing Siege, but anything that makes having an effective character take longer than it already does (when you have only 4 or so hours a week of play time) is a non-starter for me. I just can't make myself cast Summon Animal another 1000 times ... =)
Timers are still in place but cap has gone. And with the common abundance of Alacrity scrolls (boosted gain for 15mins for that skill) you can get to ROT and gain in ROT pretty quickly for some skills. Combat is harder but Transcendance scrolls can help give a boost as well.
Apparently all that died was grammar
casting skills you can GM in a few hours easily with alacs, it's far easier and quicker than on prodo. (with the added benefit of doing other things for 15 minutes between gains)
to the trolls who posted against me, i do play siege and often. ass, u, me.
the server is very dead. please come play here yadda yadda yadda we will see you for a day or week then you too will be gone.
i post my opinions, you post yours. maybe not the nicest things i post in my bitter sweet siege forum, but i post it like i see it.
I post as I see fit as well. It is not nearly as dead as you say.
I am getting sick and tired of you so called Siege players trashing our shard.
this isnt kelmos rp land. yes there is a medium sized group of rpers who still play here. but many of the atractions that made siege are gone due to low population. and i meant it. i get around and do not see more than a handful of people a day.
im sorry if im not into your type of game so i dont see you folks all the time, but aside from your group and a couple handful size groups and a few loners that is the population. just cause you are in a rp community with 10 guilds doesnt mean theres alot of activity. im sure the guild are many alts of the same person with 1-3 active persons per guild and then everyone has a alt in one big guild.
bottom line i play this server cause i dont have to worry about being pkd and losing anything, including my faction points. thats what siege has become.
What's your character in game, i don't see you on the factions ranking list, and i don't think i've ever seen you in-game. (and god knows i'm online far too much...)
ORIGIN - Ultima Online - Community
you may plug your guilds faction rank on a server with zero competition all you like.
i am not giving up my newer identities.
Roland serously its not near to as dead as you wanna think yes we have a low population but we are not dead. if ya wanna find people get outta luna. people dont stand around and wait for a PK to come find them. nobody in my guild has hiding or stealth on and we have an actaul guild that plays not just 1-3 like ya say
We dont play in luna for the easy pvp but we do play so please quit the seige hate posts your either a seige supporter or your not and you clearly dont want seige to come back if ya did you would keep your siege hate to yourself, and let people give it a try before you fill there heads with all your negitive thoughts
Think im online more then u now and i returned 3-4 weeks ago
Last skill I trained was carpentry, I gm'd it in 3 days
Turn on general chat sometime Roland and say hello to everyone. Its rude not to.
I gotta say I'm on a fair amount at all hours of the night and day and unless you have stealth on 24/7 I've never seen anything of you in game either Roland' I'm no gonna call you a lair... but I would suggest you hop in gen chat and say Hi some time... also if you want to be part of the community it might behoove you to figure out where the community spends time I frequently am in groups of 10+ players with plenty of others chatting away in Gen chat.... then again perhaps your hours are such that our paths may never cross but I doubt it =)
I will say this I'm glad I didn't read the siege forums before checking it out posts like yours probably would have successfully caused me to turn back... no one wants a dead server and were working on making a come back =) join the team please =)
I hope you consider this an invitation rather then an attack =)
The population of Siege is smaller than prodo shards, but also much more diverse, interactive overall and it is growing. My advice is just try it out. When you arrive, introduce yourself on General Chat and do join the NEW guild for your first month. I think you will be pleasantly surprised at how easy it will be to get trained up and outfitted here.
As others have already stated, people don't banksit in Luna here much. We are a busy bunch of folk here since, unlike prodo shards, there is a viable economy. If anything, the more people who go out to gather resources, dig up treasure chests, fish up mib's and kill various monsters the better; as this will increase the availability of artifact weapons and armor. This in turn will encourage those who wish to engage in PvP to play here since they are the market for these items.
Also, there are plenty of good housing spots available all over; and crafters to help you furnish your dream home in style.
I remember one of the strangest things when I came here was realizing how lavishly so many players here outfit their homes. Deco is a huge thing here - or it seems to be for many of the players, no matter what guild you are in, whether you are red or blue or somewhere in between! (Vlad can attest to this - he's been having a field day over here where his deco skills are much appreciated.) And since crafting is actually valued here, there is a market for items not found on the prodo shards where "everyone" can have a crafter a fighter, a mage, a tamer, etc.
As for the naysayers, whatever their beef may be, it is apparently a beef for them - but it may or may not be a beef for you. The only way for you to find out is for you to come over and try it. (The very fact that you have seen these varied responses shows you that there might be more to the 'story' than meets the eye.)
We do hope you will give it a try. From what Shalimar has indicated, she has had full rooms at her NEW inn for a number of weeks now - not what you would expect for a 'dead' shard.
I dont goto luna on siege anymore, that was what i had roland for, when the shard died i gave up on playing roland as id spend hours and hours and hours wandering all of the facets looking for someone to fight.
Nothing has changed. Siege is for rp and pvm now.
If your looking for a tight knit community and enjoy pvm siege could be for you.
If you enjoy RP siege is great for you.
If you want to pvp on one of the two servers that has no safe/tram facet then siege is not for you.
But this thread has been seriously side tracked. The man asked about sieges population.
The fact is siege has a very very very low pop. Atlantic pop is getting smaller as well. and while bank sittin in luna is boring at least when you hop on a server and see that many people are around selling stuff you know there is a population; and dont try to chime in siege has thieves thats why people dont bank sit, ive been on this server longer than that and remember a full moonglow bank, as well as a full luna bank. Id love to go play baja or pacific as well but they are almost as dead as siege so what would the point be as i am not established on either of those shards. Sad but true. These are my opinions, reword them how you would like but they are still a very fair insight to the obvious.
Think I'd go w/ one 'very' in regards to population. W/ PvP, I like the 'big fish/little pond' scenario siege plays out to be. Not too hard to find someone if you know where to look. Just takes a different breed of player to run around loaded w/ gear knowing you could lose it all in a few moments.
The low pop. makes a more desperate version of pk/pvp. Nothing like rolling over someone and looting their corpse while they spam 'OoooOOo' and whine in gen. chat (or being looted ). Prepare for the worst!
Much easier to raise skills on siege than on prodo for me. Get to 70 skill (RoT), get a few alacrity's(avg. 50k), and you'll be done in a week w/ little problem.
Roland eithers runs solo or likes walking thru life backwards. How long's UO been out? I'm just glad the game is still up and running, w/ a version that doesnt have insurance or trammel.
This is Siege not Kelmo Perilous we can post our opinions just like everyone else. If you don't like it then stop reading.
Siege has a low population....
If you enjoy PVP then Siege isn't for you. The only people who pvp are a few guilds who all run stealth templates and there is no passive detect on Siege so it's damn near impossible to kill anyone.
If you enjoy role play, tea parties, trammy style group farming then Siege is the place for you.
i4ni doesnt have any active stealthers so no not all guilds run stealth and even if they do run detect but nm you dont play here anyway so i dont know why i feel i gotta defend my guild to you.
it was fun when ya were here but your not anymore im glad you found fun in atl. personally i cant stand insurance, its so ****ing pointless in my opinion.
kage best of wishes to you no matter where you find enjoyment
Below are the names of 34 characters I noticed at tonight's gathering at the Brit Counselor's Guild hall to talk to EM Drosselmeyer or who were talking in General Chat while the gathering took place.
Keep in mind that this gathering occurred during the early morning hours for European players, so most of them were NOT there. I know there were also a few names that I just couldn't read in the screen shots because they're a bit too blurry to decipher. There could have also been stealthed characters in the room who never showed themselves.
Penny Les Harlet
Wrathow Mon Ung
Ya the pics from lord dogs post had bunches of people... where 24 of those names from chat then? Did ya have em log on to prove a point?
heres a little rp event some players threw together one week on atl. we didnt have an em or anything showing up to make it exciting....
Im bad at posting pics but on the steps is all the *dead* people in grey robes. about 25-30 players per team. was a truly good time. weve had some other decent sized fights but that took the cake. The GMs of the arpc also did a event recently with a huge turn out, had a parade in brit lighting off fireworks wands and dropping 25-200k checks.
hey bud are you really trying to compare atlantic to siege its like comparing apples and ornges we all know atl.. has lots of poeple we all get that but siege is different we dont need tons of people to enjoy our game we enjoy siege because its siege. we dont need insurance we dont need tram. we dont even need tons of people (yes we wish there was more) but we have fun in siege as it is.
and roland you know what i think is funny as hell. we get all you siege haters coming here posting but you all would be here too, if the numbers would pick back up, if the arties were on vendor all the time so resuiting only would take mins. These are siege's biggest 2 problem numbers and nothing on vendors
The only character whose name was in chat but who didn't make it to the event was Vladimir. Everyone else did show up at one point or another. I put together a Photobucket slide show (125 screenshots) if you'd like to go through it yourself for proof. The link is in another thread I started in this forum last night. I made sure to do several screen shots after using the "all names" macro to make the names of everyone in the room show up.
Slide show URL: Image hosting, free photo sharing & video sharing at Photobucket.
(To make the slide show pause, just move your mouse and controls should pop up in the bottom left corner.)
Your damn right sprago, the game is about arties these days. They take along time to farm silver, they cost alot for the highend non faction or alot of time to farm. Some people have the time to farm silver/gold/items and some dont. But when i die to a 2v1 disarm running shot or a flat out 4v1 dismount gank i dont want to spend a minimum of 7 hours farming to resuit.
I say make siege have a huge inflated insurance system for high end faction/imbued/luck suits, or at the very least put faction arties proto shard costs.
To Tina Small im glad you had a good turn out with as many as ten players on screen at one time, my point was that even though it was Atl that was a player run event, not an EM event were people show up just for a chance at event rares or freebee hand outs. You guys might want to check out the ARPC since you have such a thriving RP community here. http://www.atlanticcommunityboard.com/forum/index.php
few ppl i have ever wished off our shard....
GET THE HELL OFF OUR SHARD
i probably play here more often than you do dog, and im pretty damn sure ive done it longer.
Its not your shard or mine its the mess EA left behind.
I count 24 but maybe that´s just me...
And like Tina said, this was 3-4 AM CET so most European players were sleeping.
However, there´s no point in making this a Atl #s vs. Siege #s cuz we know Atlantic wins. The OP asked about the Siege population. It´s a low population compared to most other shards but there´s enough people on Siege to make it fun for most people who are interested in giving it a try.
Got on to siege 7pm server time (prime time hours) besides myself there is righty, bobafett and ginsu. I even spoke to righty and boba to prove i was there. I know how many people exactly where in the channel because i use sa client and through option selected ignore from channel which gives a list of players in channel. Grats on 25 people the night of an EM, but 5 people average on prime time is not a strong case every OTHER night of the week.
I'm using the same or better armor that I used when AOS came out 8 or 9 years ago, It used to be you would get you regs and bandaids looted and that about it.
Back them faction had blessed runic armor that they could raid all the tea partys doom and champ spawns. and not lose much other than going in to stat which basicly never happened because they where fighting no faction guilds.
EA took away their blessed armor. Everyone where equal everything was at risk unless you had umbra leggings, bunny ears, and a pbd that you could bless one item. After a while there was the have and have nots based if you where playing when they gave out the PBD. So EA gave out the Seige bless and took the bless off the bunny ears and leggings.
Then Faction armor came out and they had an arms race for the best armor and weapons. There was a large surplus of cheap silver built up over the years. Silver used to drop everyone even to non faction people who sold the silver off. The great faction arms race was stared. The so called Tea party guilds did not have the equipment that the faction guild had. One day the silver ran out. They tried buy backs to keep the urber gear but rival guilds where too self centered no wanting to give their enemies the upper hand no one sold the armor back. meaning they had to farm new silver to buy new factions gear and not wanting to give up their item based game style the faction players moved to Trammal base shards so the can insure their items. If faction players only played by the old rules of Siege light looting bandaids and regs and maybe one piece of armor. There might be more pvp action here.
As for the so called tea party guilds we are still here and aren't leaving.
PS As for Atlantic that is where I do role play. I play a frog named Spree feel free to kill her as she cant give counts being that she is in the thieves guild.
PPS. I did see Diablo there spamining over the RPs in Tram Magencia I guess he cant pvp there with insurance so he had to harass role players in Tram.
I´ll admit I don´t know how that works in the EC (if that´s what you meant) but when you do that in the CC afaik the list only shows the people that you´ve seen speak in chat since you joined the channel (in most cases from when you´ve logged in).
Maybe it´s the same in the EC?
No but that´s when you started to run good-er gear. And the bar was raised once again. Then when buy backs didn´t work as it could´ve some people had a "hard time" re-equipping, cuz remember the bar was raised and people refused to play if they didn´t have that uber suit. This went on for a while and less and less people participated in the PvP.
And PvP died.
Ok just to clarify.. I am not worried about the idea of building a toon I have probably 5 toons on Siege from years back pretty sure my main had 2-3 different 5x120 templates on soulstones. I gave away a castle on ice island when I left so its not like i need cash either.
basically I recently started a game much like UO with some friends (the entire original VJ from GL and VERY early Siege not the messed up folks who stole our guild name etc. we are playing pretty actively but we are definately in the PvP category not RP.
Not a huge fan of the Arty race because honestly that is when UO became about money and less about skill..
I just wanted a take if it was worth checking out for some established players along with possibly some veterns on noob accounts to come back...
reading between the lines looks like its sorta small right now which sucks due to the large amount of land on the server I might activate one of mine and run around for a few days just so I can give my buds an accurate picture.
Thanks for all the replys the positives and negatives i like to hear it all and then try and make my own call.
might see ya soon one quick question are any of the "wolf" wanna be toons running around still ? because if the name is gonna be associated with garbage(no offense if one of them is reading this)but just checking if I should change my name to one of my old alt names..
i started seige on day 1 - name was Glorious Lady Ji
it was before they stopped letting you have lady and lord in your name.
Why do people talk as if these events happened a week ago?
Not healthy to obsess over the past like this.
I don't care who's fault it is.
Rub it in why don't ya Tina =( I wanted to make it but I really had to finish those papers...
Roland' I don't know you or anything about you but I think your one of the more close minded people I've seen I'm not gonna sit here and tell you that that's necessarily a good or bad thing... Honestly I don't believe in good and bad. I'd just like to say I've not seen you here since I started playing so unless you wanna participate in the community productively I think your time and energy would be better used on the Atlantic shard forum.
After watching things on the Siege board for a while, I find the level of 'Siege haters' very interesting. I mean, the ones who hate Siege *really* hate Siege and apparently will mouth off as much as possible to turn off new players from coming to Siege. Does anyone do this to the shards they play? I haven't checked, but I suspect not.
Since Siege is so notorious and brings up the ire of these people so much, why don't we create a special "Siege Haters" board for them - just for them - a private board where they can rant to their hearts content about how bad Siege is?
And then the rest of us will enjoy our Stratics Siege board more because we won't have to listen to their idiot remarks. They obviously need their own special place - other than on my "Boy are these people stupid, don't they have anything better to do" list.
(being sarcastic for those who do not understand how to make a point using sarcasm)
I am so on this...
I am gonna lock this for a moment.
Ok we are back...
I logged last night to stock my vendor and there was 10 pep or so in G chat.
Nothing more to report except...go buy my stuff at yew gate!
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