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Why 120 Disco?

Discussion in 'UO Bard' started by Mikeltin5, Feb 16, 2019.

  1. Mikeltin5

    Mikeltin5 Seasoned Veteran
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    uoguide says target loses 10% at 50 skill and 20% at 100 skill...no mention of any additional loss at 120. Any information differ from that or am I wasting 20 skill points and time? I can disco a cu (for training purposes) at 100...if no additional % is granted I'd be done. So more of a curiosity (and hope I can stop training) than anything.
     
  2. XeneX

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    @ 120 discord I drop my pet from 120 skill to 86.4, a drop of 33.6. Haven't really looked at wild beasts, but I assume it's the same.
     
  3. dark sonja

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  4. Innoxicated

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    Not that a tamer would use disco masteries, but it also helps with those. Or if you use provo/peace masteries to buff your pet when not using consume damage, those also draw a little extra oomph from any bard skills at 120. if you feel you don't need the 8% or additional benefits, don't worry about it. But if training the skill is your biggest deterrent, keep in mind discord trains much more smoothly by toggling the masteries on/off and targeting yourself.
     
  5. Mikeltin5

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    that's how ive been training at a rate of 0.2 an hour with fully maxed MR stats. I'll take the debuff under consideration ty everyone
     
  6. dark sonja

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    its not only about debuff % but also about % you can discord the mob, 120 is a must for bosses.

    UO Stratics - Bard Difficulty
     
  7. Mikeltin5

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    agreed...but I have a samp/tamer I use for bosses. this toon is solely for training pets up
     
  8. Xris

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    I was thinking of builds like that. What template do you run?
     
  9. Mikeltin5

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    keep in mind this suit isn't full bore...it uses pots to compensate for the str and dext I need (didn't wana go nuts on a suit for a temp that didn't pan out):

    120 Swords
    120 Bush
    100 Tactics (+10)
    80 Necro (+20)
    95 Taming (+15)
    80 Lore (+30)
    55 Chiv (+15)
    70 Parry
     
  10. Innoxicated

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    Melee tamer seems pretty cool, something I've always wanted to try. I bet onslaught would do a lot of good stacking damage with the right elemental pet...

    ooh and I bumped my music down to gm (99, tbh) to train all my bard skills with masteries. It is slow AF, and I couldn't prove it helped, but at least I felt like I may have been making the best possible use of the time it was taking.
     
  11. Mikeltin5

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    i use a disco cu (ive posted initial thoughts of the temp in warrior forum). I've been toying with the idea of a reptalon with area effect for spawning purposes.
     
  12. Innoxicated

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    Lol I was just thinking too bad you can't bring the disco toon along with the onslaught. I recall seeing the post now, sounds pretty badass!
     
  13. Mikeltin5

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  14. Xris

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    Use chiv to heal pets? That's a lot of +skill stuff to find! Hehe how's the overall dps? Better than straight sampire?
     
  15. Mikeltin5

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    its about avg to wat my previous samp did...~200 per hit on dbl strike with onslaught (400 total). but the cu adds a bit more dmg with its AIs. so dps isn't much greater overall but it was a nice differ from the samp norm

    far as healing...I tank the boss then sick pet on it...so it has 20hpr and 120 healing but the focus is on me