You have to join a tram guild to call yourself good. Every single thing I read here had to deal with some idiot joining a tram guild with a kit. DUDE I have stolen 120 magery's and countless other scrolls & replicas. Just today I got a 120 archery, anatomy & rikky skull all in one run. You thieves are just terrible, you want a thief challenge just try me. I play Legends, I know you got a char there Smurf. It wont get ya very far unless ya join a tram guild tho scrub.